"Conor would kill Floyd in a street fight."

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  • kafkod
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    #51
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    Those are weak people/kids/women skills for a reason, put hands on a legit JJB black belt or a legit wrestler and see what happens.

    You will end in a guillotine "seconds chrono" and won't be able to bite anything, you will use your arms to survive and breath a little more cuz you will feel like you're dying in here, if you try to reach for his balls, he will just roll and finish you in your back.


    You don't grapple with a legit grappler, you just get submitted in 3 seconds, better pray to get a "testicle" quick.
    I have personally grappled with a ju-jitsu black belt who was learning boxing at the same gym I trained at. He was a little heavier than me, but I was able to hold my own and avoid being choked out or caught in any submission holds because I was faster, stronger, and fitter than him. If I'd been fighting him I would have beaten the crap out of him, I have no doubt about that at all.

    Grappling is way overrated by people who don't understand that modern MMA rules were devised and developed by grapplers to give them an edge over strike fighters.

    Ju-jitsu/grappling is as much use as a chocolate fireguard if you are unlucky enough or ****** enough to get involved in a street fight with some evil, nasty animal of a guy who is naturally stonger and quicker than you are. And trust me .. they are out there.
    Last edited by kafkod; 10-08-2018, 12:43 PM.

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    • HandsofIron
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      #52
      Ronda Rousey beats Mayweather in an arm wrestling contest, fo sho.

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      • champion4ever
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        #53
        All I know is that Conor got his ass whooped in a street fight on Saturday night in front 3 million viewers worldwide. It's embarasing

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        • Luilun
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          #54
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
          There is really no proof of this. Why would those guys beat Floyd? Because some of them were bigger punchers? That's ****** reasoning.

          Floyd often times get criticized for using illegal tactics in his matches: like using his forearm to create space, hitting and holding, or ducking really low below the waistline to avoid punches. All of those things would suddenly become fair game in a street fight.

          So there is no reason to think any of those guys would beat him in a no rules contest. Conor Mcgregor even said Floyd was surprisingly strong in the clinch and had good knowledge of framing and positioning and even went as far as to say Floyd would bring valuable tools to MMA.

          You can't be a great boxer without knowing how to "fight."
          First you can’t have brittle hands in a street fight what is he going to call time out and inject his hands with his numbing drug. Conor was just being nice cause he was given his biggest pay day for an exhibition fight

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          • Johnwoo8686
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            #55
            Originally posted by Luilun
            First you can’t have brittle hands in a street fight what is he going to call time out and inject his hands with his numbing drug. Conor was just being nice cause he was given his biggest pay day for an exhibition fight
            Street fights aren't 12 rounds with a ref constantly breaking you up every time you clinch. You take the gloves off and the fighter becomes faster and less restricted. Like I said there is no reason to think guys who lost to Floyd in a boxing match would beat him in the streets, with the exception of McGregor.

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            • Diego Rodriguez
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              #56
              I think Conor is a tool and got owned. His crap was over the top. The Russian dude is the real deal. That was justice on Saturday.

              All that said I do not think what happened last night means Floyd would beat McGregor in a street fight /UFC fight. Floyd isn’t prepared for kicks to the legs or head. McGregor isn’t great in the ground game but guarantee it is light years better than Floyd.

              But there is one way it could be settled, fight in the Octagon. That fight would probably surpass their boxing match in numbers. I have no doubt McGregor would sign up in a NYC second.

              These are different sports. You can’t get in either on short notice and expect to beat the upper echelon guys.

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              • FinitoxDinamita
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                #57
                I dont think anybody would dispute that.

                Anything goes on the streets and Connor have more weapons.

                Floyd with his brittle hands wouldnt get down like that.

                Mcgregor *** him up.

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ashadam
                  Go to Floyd's ankles then murder him on the floor I presume after you have beaten his security.

                  What you on about - Your man Mcgregor is rubbish full of ****, lost every high profile fight - The man is a hype job simple.
                  McGregor isn't my boy, but he beats Floyd in a real fight 90%/10% IMO, period

                  Floyd never wanted that work in the octagon for a reason.

                  McGregor won most of his high profile fights in the UFC.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    I have personally grappled with a ju-jitsu black belt who was learning boxing at the same gym I trained at. He was a little heavier than me, but I was able to hold my own and avoid being choked out or caught in any submission holds because I was faster, stronger, and fitter than him. If I'd been fighting him I would have beaten the crap out of him, I have no doubt about that at all.

                    Grappling is way overrated by people who don't understand that modern MMA rules were devised and developed by grapplers to give them an edge over strike fighters.

                    Ju-jitsu/grappling is as much use as a chocolate fireguard if you are unlucky enough or ****** enough to get involved in a street fight with some evil, nasty animal of a guy who is naturally stonger and quicker than you are. And trust me .. they are out there.
                    Either he rolled cool with you because you're a beginner, OR he lied about his belt colour, OR he's a bum who should give back his black belt.

                    Unfortunately, sometimes you can find some black belts who shouldn't even be a purple belt, some idiots lie too.

                    Just like you can find some pro fighters like Brian Sutherland who shouldn't even be allowed to fight as an amateur.

                    A black belt is supposed to white wash a blue belt and a blue belt supposed to white wash a beginner.

                    I'm in my first year of JJB and rolled with many guys now, never competed, and I have been boxing as an amateur and in the boxing gym for years. A real black belt, even out of shape should school you, just too many tricks and technics, much more than boxing.



                    JJB is a craft, all about technics, you can see some huge black guys built like NFL dudes beginning JJB and getting submitted easy by some lil whitey nerdzy teenager half their size and being a simple blue belt.

                    That's how powerfull JJB is.

                    Now, that's far from being an unbeatable style since there is no unbeatable style at all.
                    Last edited by BillyBoxing; 10-09-2018, 04:34 AM.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      I have personally grappled with a ju-jitsu black belt who was learning boxing at the same gym I trained at. He was a little heavier than me, but I was able to hold my own and avoid being choked out or caught in any submission holds because I was faster, stronger, and fitter than him. If I'd been fighting him I would have beaten the crap out of him, I have no doubt about that at all.

                      Grappling is way overrated by people who don't understand that modern MMA rules were devised and developed by grapplers to give them an edge over strike fighters.

                      Ju-jitsu/grappling is as much use as a chocolate fireguard if you are unlucky enough or ****** enough to get involved in a street fight with some evil, nasty animal of a guy who is naturally stonger and quicker than you are. And trust me .. they are out there.
                      I don't think MMA is built for grapplers, you can use most of the tricks of the striking book in the UFC, knees, elbows, hooks, uppercuts, straight punches, every sort of kicks.

                      JJB is a style built to control and beat a stronger man, since legs are the stronger asset of a human body, power comes from the legs, put him on the floor and he loses most of his power, then you have 1000 ways to submit and control the guy, destroy him since in a street fight there is no "tap".

                      Let Khabib 30 seconds more and he was killing Connor.

                      Now, in order to do so, you need to reduce the distance/clinch then take down the guy, those 2 steps aren't easy at all, wrestlers are the best at those 2 steps (hence why most american UFC stars are wrestlers starting with Cormier who was an olympic wrestler, even Jon Jones comes from Uni Wreslting, Lesnar and Dillashaw too).

                      Wrestlers will just have to reduce the distance, then you getting slammed on the floor then head punched into KO. Those guys won't let you off the hook, too strong and quick.

                      I think boxing is under represented in UFC because there is money in boxing unlike in wrestling and JJB.

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