Why do the smaller divisions get overhyped?

[Eff Pandas]

My problem with the lower weights is that there are too many and not much weight separates them.
If they want to make the lower weights more interesting they need to remove several of those divisions; you are basically just forcing fighters to move up or down a division.
Also, having so many weight classes means that they lack any real depth, for the most part.

Even if you love the lower weights you definitely have to think it may be better to remove some of the weight classes. Just imagine how stacked some of the divisions would be.

THIS is my thinking as well.

9 divisions of the 17 boxing divisions take up 30lbs (105-135). Thats just mfing ******ed. 7 of the other 8 cover 60lbs (140-200). There need to be far less lil guy divisions. Spread that sh^t out.

No one should be able to be a triple crown champ cuz they gained 7lbs (105, 108, 112) & its obviously the place where most cats have won 3 weight division titles cuz even the lil guys know that sh^t is ******ed & like some handicapped parking space of boxing kinda bs.

That said idk if Monster is a guy who's getting too much hype. I think he's a guy who'd probably be even bigger if the weight divisions were more seriously contested in the lil guy divisions.

Thats the thing to. All these lil guy divisions take away from the greatness cuz its probably doubling the landscape the top lil guys are covering. The lil guy divisions would probably have more big fights if more of the big names were in less divisions & that would just get the lil guys who won more respect in the game cuz every top lil guys resume would be sexy in theory.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Smaller divisions are stacked of great talent.

Manny Rodríguez probably is the best rican fighter.

Inoue the best fighter from Japan.

Tete, second best fighter from África. (first is Dogboe).

Nery. Top-5 fighter from México.

Donaire is an old but a good boxer.

Burnett, Maloney are good fighters.

And Sor probably will be in 118 next year.

[boliodogs]

They are not over hyped. There is no such thing as a weak division. All weight classes have good boxers. Are you saying the world has suddenly run out of good bantam weights. Bantam weight is one of the original 8 weight classes and in many parts of the world that's about the average fighting weight of most men. Are you saying all the good fighters fight at 122 and 126 and there is nobody good for Inoue to fight at 118? That's just BS. Inoue is beating good fighters and making it look easy is all. Inoue is well up on my pfp top ten list from what I have seen from him. Inoue should only move up in weight if he wants to and not because you think he should. If he wants to stay at 118 and dominate that should be good enough for anybody. You talk like moving up a weight class is no big deal but it is a big deal. In a heavier weight class the boxers are a little bigger and stronger and they hit a little harder and take a punch a little better. It all adds up. Inoue was the 108 pound light flyweight champion so he has already moved up 10 pounds. In these very small weight classes a few pounds means more than a few pounds at middleweight or light heavyweight.

[boliodogs]

THIS is my thinking as well.

9 divisions of the 17 boxing divisions take up 30lbs (105-135). Thats just mfing ******ed. 7 of the other 8 cover 60lbs (140-200). There need to be far less lil guy divisions. Spread that sh^t out.

No one should be able to be a triple crown champ cuz they gained 7lbs (105, 108, 112) & its obviously the place where most cats have won 3 weight division titles cuz even the lil guys know that sh^t is ******ed & like some handicapped parking space of boxing kinda bs.

That said idk if Monster is a guy who's getting too much hype. I think he's a guy who'd probably be even bigger if the weight divisions were more seriously contested in the lil guy divisions.

Thats the thing to. All these lil guy divisions take away from the greatness cuz its probably doubling the landscape the top lil guys are covering. The lil guy divisions would probably have more big fights if more of the big names were in less divisions & that would just get the lil guys who won more respect in the game cuz every top lil guys resume would be sexy in theory.

I think even the very small weight classes should be at least 5 or preferably 6 pounds apart. 112, 115 and 118 are too close together. Three pounds is just a burger and frys and a large drink.

[Eff Pandas]

I think even the very small weight classes should be at least 5 or preferably 6 pounds apart. 112, 115 and 118 are too close together. Three pounds is just a burger and frys and a large drink.

Oh sh^t man I didn't even realize there was just 6lbs between 112-118. I thought 7lbs between 105-112 was the shortest distance between one title & three. That makes even less sense then cuz one would assume the higher you move up the more actual lbs you'd need to gain to win a second & third title.

105-112 is the most popular triple crown route doe. I looked it up one day lol.

[Eff Pandas]

Random Boxing BS.

Top 5 Most Popular Routes to Being a three division Boxing title holder:

1)105, 108 & 112 (7lbs)
2)130, 135 & 140 (10lbs)
3t)147, 154 & 160 (14lbs)
3t)126, 130 & 135 (9lbs)
3t)118, 122 & 126 (8lbs)

Its no mistake of the 15 open slots 11 of them are lil guy divisions taking up the place.

And randomly of the 47 3 weight division title holders I looked at (this was awhile ago so might be more mfers who've won 3 titles since then):

24 of them (51%) won all three belts at 135lbs or under, aka the lil guy divisions (bottom 9 divisions)
36 of them (76%) won at least 1 of their 3 belts at 135lbs or under

Only 11 (23%) won all three belts at 140lbs+ (the upper 8 divisions)

[FinitoxDinamita]

I don't think you know what hyped, or overhyped mean.

Red K for making this crap thread.

Exactly. Only the hardcore boxing guys are into the lower divisions.

It was only after the SuperFly series people started to notice the small guys.

Im giving him a red K right now

[HI-TECH Boxing]

THIS is my thinking as well.

9 divisions of the 17 boxing divisions take up 30lbs (105-135). Thats just mfing ******ed. 7 of the other 8 cover 60lbs (140-200). There need to be far less lil guy divisions. Spread that sh^t out.

No one should be able to be a triple crown champ cuz they gained 7lbs (105, 108, 112) & its obviously the place where most cats have won 3 weight division titles cuz even the lil guys know that sh^t is ******ed & like some handicapped parking space of boxing kinda bs.

That said idk if Monster is a guy who's getting too much hype. I think he's a guy who'd probably be even bigger if the weight divisions were more seriously contested in the lil guy divisions.

Thats the thing to. All these lil guy divisions take away from the greatness cuz its probably doubling the landscape the top lil guys are covering. The lil guy divisions would probably have more big fights if more of the big names were in less divisions & that would just get the lil guys who won more respect in the game cuz every top lil guys resume would be sexy in theory.

Yeah, it's a little ridiculous.
Usyk has to move up to face guys that will out weigh him by 40+ pounds and only be a two division world champion, while fighters in the smaller weight classes only have to move up 6 pounds (112-118) to be a 3 division world champion.

The lower weights really do lack any depth. That's why I don't base everything on rankings, especially in the lower weights. I let my eyes tell me what I see. I don't get impressed just because someone was ranked #1-3 at 108, 112, etc. How good is he really? Only way to really tell is by watching. Like I said, especially in the smallest weight classes. It feels like champions get dethroned every minute.

Something needs to be done about the weight classes. Unfortunately it's boxing, so nothing will be done about it. If anything, they will probably add more divisions.

Say what you want about amateur boxing, but at least they don't have too many weight classes. Currently there are 10, which I think is a solid number.

[crold1]

Oh sh^t man I didn't even realize there was just 6lbs between 112-118. I thought 7lbs between 105-112 was the shortest distance between one title & three. That makes even less sense then cuz one would assume the higher you move up the more actual lbs you'd need to gain to win a second & third title.

105-112 is the most popular triple crown route doe. I looked it up one day lol.

It’s an issue of % body weight, not sheer lbs. Judged by %, the jump from 108 to 112 is the same as 154 to 160 and 168 to 175. All the jumps are between about 95 and 97 % of body weight.

That said, 105 to 108 and 112-15-18 are a little too easy. But to adress you’d have to change the limit on a classic class. Winning five titles from 05-18 is still slightly less tough as a % of body weight as 147-168

[Eff Pandas]

It’s an issue of % body weight, not sheer lbs. Judged by %, the jump from 108 to 112 is the same as 154 to 160 and 168 to 175. All the jumps are between about 95 and 97 % of body weight.

That said, 105 to 108 and 112-15-18 are a little too easy. But to adress you’d have to change the limit on a classic class. Winning five titles from 05-18 is still slightly less tough as a % of body weight as 147-168

I think its deeper than that.

If it was merely about a % increase why do the lower weight guys win so many multiple weight division titles based on the stats I posted a lil bit ago.