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  • Originally posted by jdp28tx View Post
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    How a fraud and hyped up fighter behaves after a draw and losing a close fight and losing his middleweight titles:

    Gennady Golovkin demands an immediate 3rd fight, complains and cries how he was robbed in both fights. When not given an immediate rematch by the WBC and the WBC informs him the winner of himself ad Charlo would fight Canelo he flat out refuses to fight Charlo. He refuses to fight Andrade another titlist, he refuses to move up a division and take on new challenges for any title at 168lbs. In fact, he instead sought out to fight an unproven Japanese fighter named Ryota Murata who only had 14 fights, but GGG's plans were spoiled when Murata was ko'd by an average fighter named Rob Bryant on October 20th. The impression now is that GGG will refuse to fight anyone of note unless he gets his way with an immediate 3rd fight with Alvarez.

    Now tell me who is the real great middleweight between the two above named fighters?
    A couple question:

    1. Who the ***** have Charlo and Andrade beaten in their careers that have made them more proven than Murata? Charlo's best win was a close decision victory over Austin Trout. He's fought top tier opposition 6 times and the only victory in one of those fights. I admire Trout's balls and his skills but a 1-5 record at that level tells you were he's at. And that fight was at 154. Demetrious Andrade's best win came against Vanes Materyowhateverhisname is and he got dropped in the first round. And that came at 154. Technically, of the 3 fighters Ryoto Murata has the best win over a credible middleweight opponent. Hassan N'Dam is a much more credible opponent at 160 than a one legged Jorge Sebastian Heiland, former 154lber Hugo Centeno and Walter whoda***. So let's not pretend we're talking about three guys who are battle tested against top tier fighters here because we're not. We're talking about young, talented fighters with boatloads of potential with an emphasis on potential. Murata just happened to ***** the bed in his most recent fight.

    Also important to note was that a Murata vs. GGG fight would have sold out the Tokyo Dome. Charlo is only headlining his first fight this December and Andrade was the B-side against an opponent flying in from overseas. So with everything being relatively equal in terms of accomplishments GGG's team was toying with the one which offered the most money. And "toying" is not a minor thing because no deal has been signed. To get the Murata fight GGG would have needed to sign with ESPN and with Canelo signing with DAZN the Murata fight probably wasn't a big possibility to begin with.

    2. You do realize that GGG has no need to fight either of those guys to get his shot at Canelo? GGG is the only potential opponent for Canelo that is guaranteed to sell around 1 million pay per views. If Canelo wants that fight then that fight happens. Period. Canelo, by the by, happens to be a much more accomplished opponent than either Charlo or Andrade.

    3. When did GGG say he wouldn't fight Andrade? I know his promoter said the Charlo fight wasn't happening but that has as much to do with the likeyhood of GGG signing with DAZN than anything else.

    4. You do know there have been rumors about GGG possibly moving up to challenge Callum Smith at 168 right? I guess in your rush to add the whole "why doesn't GGG challenge himself by moving up" thing you must have missed that one.

    5. If GGG does move up to fight Callum Smith for a 168 belt will you give him credit for it (since you made a big deal of GGG challenging himself) or will you say Charlo and Andrade chased him out of the division?
    Last edited by yankees7448; 11-13-2018, 12:46 AM.

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    • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
      This is a myth that needs to die. Other than Zurdo vs. Canelo on one of the Mexican Holidays there is no other opponent for either guy that could sell around a million PPVs. With that being said, Canelo would still pick GGG first because GGG is smaller than Zurdo and Canelo already beat him once.
      A trilogy fight is a foregone conclusion.
      As long as both guys want it its going to happen. No other fighter or sanctioning body will get in the way of that. Too much money to be made.

      The answer to both of these is the likelyhood that GGG will sign with DAZN. With DAZN he has access to all of the main belt holders at 160 (Canelo with the WBC and WBA, Danny Jacobs with the IBF and Demetrious Andrade with the WBO) as well as at least one of the 168 pound champions in Callum Smith. To fight Ramirez would mean signing with ESPN who has no one else for GGG to fight other than Zurdo. PBC has a better stable than ESPN by far but the vast majority of GGG's potential opponents are either a weight class below or above GGG.



      Canelo can - and will - do whatever he wants

      he already stated that he may remain at 168

      there is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that Golovkin will get another Canelo payday

      and Golovkin just refused to take his best chance to force that fight

      hey, wait..... I remember you now..... you are the guy who ALWAYS calls out guys who are ducking..... right?

      ok, waiting.....

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      • Originally posted by jdp28tx View Post

        How a true champion and great fighter behaves after losing 2 close fights and losing his middleweight titles:


        After Bernard Hopkins lost twice to Jermain Taylor in close fights losing his middleweight titles in the process he immediately moved up two weight classes and a mere 6 months after losing to Taylor he defeated the consensus #1 light heavyweight in the world Antonio Tarver to win the light heavyweight title. He then beat the middle weight champion Kelly Pavlik at a catch weight. He went on to beat Winky Wright, after losing the light heavyweight title he re-captured the title beating Jean Pascal. He also added 1 more light heavyweight title to his career at 175lbs. Most importantly whether you like him or hate him as he was fast approaching 50yrs old Hopkins fought only the best fighters at 175lbs.

        How a fraud and hyped up fighter behaves after a draw and losing a close fight and losing his middleweight titles:

        Gennady Golovkin demands an immediate 3rd fight, complains and cries how he was robbed in both fights. When not given an immediate rematch by the WBC and the WBC informs him the winner of himself ad Charlo would fight Canelo he flat out refuses to fight Charlo. He refuses to fight Andrade another titlist, he refuses to move up a division and take on new challenges for any title at 168lbs. In fact, he instead sought out to fight an unproven Japanese fighter named Ryota Murata who only had 14 fights, but GGG's plans were spoiled when Murata was ko'd by an average fighter named Rob Bryant on October 20th. The impression now is that GGG will refuse to fight anyone of note unless he gets his way with an immediate 3rd fight with Alvarez.

        Now tell me who is the real great middleweight between the two above named fighters?



        dayummm !!!!!



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        • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
          A couple question:

          1. Who the ***** have Charlo and Andrade beaten in their careers that have made them more proven than Murata? Charlo's best win was a close decision victory over Austin Trout. He's fought top tier opposition 6 times and the only victory in one of those fights. I admire Trout's balls and his skills but a 1-5 record at that level tells you were he's at. And that fight was at 154. Demetrious Andrade's best win came against Vanes Materyowhateverhisname is and he got dropped in the first round. And that came at 154. Technically, of the 3 fighters Ryoto Murata has the best win over a credible middleweight opponent. Hassan N'Dam is a much more credible opponent at 160 than a one legged Jorge Sebastian Heiland, former 154lber Hugo Centeno and Walter whoda***. So let's not pretend we're talking about three guys who are battle tested against top tier fighters here because we're not. We're talking about young, talented fighters with boatloads of potential with an emphasis on potential. Murata just happened to ***** the bed in his most recent fight.

          Also important to note was that a Murata vs. GGG fight would have sold out the Tokyo Dome. Charlo is only headlining his first fight this December and Andrade was the B-side against an opponent flying in from overseas. So with everything being relatively equal in terms of accomplishments GGG's team was toying with the one which offered the most money. And "toying" is not a minor thing because no deal has been signed. To get the Murata fight GGG would have needed to sign with ESPN and with Canelo signing with DAZN the Murata fight probably wasn't a big possibility to begin with.

          2. You do realize that GGG has no need to fight either of those guys to get his shot at Canelo? GGG is the only potential opponent for Canelo that is guaranteed to sell around 1 million pay per views. If Canelo wants that fight then that fight happens. Period. Canelo, by the by, happens to be a much more accomplished opponent than either Charlo or Andrade.

          3. When did GGG say he wouldn't fight Andrade? I know his promoter said the Charlo fight wasn't happening but that has as much to do with the likeyhood of GGG signing with DAZN than anything else.

          4. You do know there have been rumors about GGG possibly moving up to challenge Callum Smith at 168 right? I guess in your rush to add the whole "why doesn't GGG challenge himself by moving up" thing you must have missed that one.

          5. If GGG does move up to fight Callum Smith for a 168 belt will you give him credit for it (since you made a big deal of GGG challenging himself) or will you say Charlo and Andrade chased him out of the division?




          oh shlt.....

          that was a warning shot..... right between the eyes LMAO

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          • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
            A couple question:

            1. Who the ***** have Charlo and Andrade beaten in their careers that have made them more proven than Murata? Charlo's best win was a close decision victory over Austin Trout. He's fought top tier opposition 6 times and the only victory in one of those fights. I admire Trout's balls and his skills but a 1-5 record at that level tells you were he's at. And that fight was at 154. Demetrious Andrade's best win came against Vanes Materyowhateverhisname is and he got dropped in the first round. And that came at 154. Technically, of the 3 fighters Ryoto Murata has the best win over a credible middleweight opponent. Hassan N'Dam is a much more credible opponent at 160 than a one legged Jorge Sebastian Heiland, former 154lber Hugo Centeno and Walter whoda***. So let's not pretend we're talking about three guys who are battle tested against top tier fighters here because we're not. We're talking about young, talented fighters with boatloads of potential with an emphasis on potential. Murata just happened to ***** the bed in his most recent fight.

            Also important to note was that a Murata vs. GGG fight would have sold out the Tokyo Dome. Charlo is only headlining his first fight this December and Andrade was the B-side against an opponent flying in from overseas. So with everything being relatively equal in terms of accomplishments GGG's team was toying with the one which offered the most money. And "toying" is not a minor thing because no deal has been signed. To get the Murata fight GGG would have needed to sign with ESPN and with Canelo signing with DAZN the Murata fight probably wasn't a big possibility to begin with.

            2. You do realize that GGG has no need to fight either of those guys to get his shot at Canelo? GGG is the only potential opponent for Canelo that is guaranteed to sell around 1 million pay per views. If Canelo wants that fight then that fight happens. Period. Canelo, by the by, happens to be a much more accomplished opponent than either Charlo or Andrade.

            3. When did GGG say he wouldn't fight Andrade? I know his promoter said the Charlo fight wasn't happening but that has as much to do with the likeyhood of GGG signing with DAZN than anything else.

            4. You do know there have been rumors about GGG possibly moving up to challenge Callum Smith at 168 right? I guess in your rush to add the whole "why doesn't GGG challenge himself by moving up" thing you must have missed that one.

            5. If GGG does move up to fight Callum Smith for a 168 belt will you give him credit for it (since you made a big deal of GGG challenging himself) or will you say Charlo and Andrade chased him out of the division?



            hey kid, instead of embarrassing yourself by making more SILLY excuses

            why don't you take time out of your busy day to actually get the point

            did you not see the GLARING difference between how those two fighters behaved

            when has Golovkin ever behaved like a champion ?

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              did you not see the GLARING difference between how those two fighters behaved

              when has Golovkin ever behaved like a champion ?
              Everyday mother****er

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              • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                Canelo can - and will - do whatever he wants

                he already stated that he may remain at 168

                there is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that Golovkin will get another Canelo payday
                There is about as much chance of Canelo vs. GGG happening as there is of you calling GGG Hypekin.

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                • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                  Everyday mother****er


                  name one time that he behaved like a true champion

                  true champions do not run around talking shlt for YEARS, and then crawl up their own ass when things got real

                  so many things have backfired on Golovkin

                  all of that 154-168 nonsense, backfired

                  all of that businessman doe nonsense, backfired

                  all of the ridiculous excuses he made to avoid guys, backfired

                  the comments he made about Canelo vacating, backfired

                  etc, etc.....

                  name one time Golovkin acted like a true champion, just one ?

                  you saw in the post above, that Hopkins is cut from a completely cloth than Golovkin

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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    name one time that he behaved like a true champion

                    Too hard to limit it to one day when he acts like a true champion every minute of every second of every day. Meanwhile

                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    All I do is



                    Immortalized.

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                    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      name one time that he behaved like a true champion

                      Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                      Too hard.....




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