Originally posted by jdp28tx
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1. Who the ***** have Charlo and Andrade beaten in their careers that have made them more proven than Murata? Charlo's best win was a close decision victory over Austin Trout. He's fought top tier opposition 6 times and the only victory in one of those fights. I admire Trout's balls and his skills but a 1-5 record at that level tells you were he's at. And that fight was at 154. Demetrious Andrade's best win came against Vanes Materyowhateverhisname is and he got dropped in the first round. And that came at 154. Technically, of the 3 fighters Ryoto Murata has the best win over a credible middleweight opponent. Hassan N'Dam is a much more credible opponent at 160 than a one legged Jorge Sebastian Heiland, former 154lber Hugo Centeno and Walter whoda***. So let's not pretend we're talking about three guys who are battle tested against top tier fighters here because we're not. We're talking about young, talented fighters with boatloads of potential with an emphasis on potential. Murata just happened to ***** the bed in his most recent fight.
Also important to note was that a Murata vs. GGG fight would have sold out the Tokyo Dome. Charlo is only headlining his first fight this December and Andrade was the B-side against an opponent flying in from overseas. So with everything being relatively equal in terms of accomplishments GGG's team was toying with the one which offered the most money. And "toying" is not a minor thing because no deal has been signed. To get the Murata fight GGG would have needed to sign with ESPN and with Canelo signing with DAZN the Murata fight probably wasn't a big possibility to begin with.
2. You do realize that GGG has no need to fight either of those guys to get his shot at Canelo? GGG is the only potential opponent for Canelo that is guaranteed to sell around 1 million pay per views. If Canelo wants that fight then that fight happens. Period. Canelo, by the by, happens to be a much more accomplished opponent than either Charlo or Andrade.
3. When did GGG say he wouldn't fight Andrade? I know his promoter said the Charlo fight wasn't happening but that has as much to do with the likeyhood of GGG signing with DAZN than anything else.
4. You do know there have been rumors about GGG possibly moving up to challenge Callum Smith at 168 right? I guess in your rush to add the whole "why doesn't GGG challenge himself by moving up" thing you must have missed that one.
5. If GGG does move up to fight Callum Smith for a 168 belt will you give him credit for it (since you made a big deal of GGG challenging himself) or will you say Charlo and Andrade chased him out of the division?
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