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Last edited by yankees7448; 11-23-2018, 09:13 AM.
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
GENTLEMAN- HERE ISTHE HYPOCRISY.
Yet Canelo, who had fought at 154-155 from April, 2013 against Trout until Liam Smith September,2016 to include Floyd, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Khan, and Cotto - where he won the MW title AT 155 - NOT 160
So, in your own words, how can Canelo "duck a guy" when he hadn't even made weight for the weight class???
Hello? Your own words. The hypocrisy of a Ggroupie. It's too easy, seriously.
To be hypocritical on the situations between GGG/Canelo and GGG/Ward GGG would have needed to win a belt at super middleweight, the 168 pound division, and then demand Ward move down to fight him at a catchweight. But that isn't what happened. What happened was Canelo one a belt in a new division and demanded his mandatory almost cut enough weight to qualify for the division below him. Meanwhile Andre Ward, who spent his entire career at 168, challenged GGG and GGG's side asked for a catchweight. So the situations aren't even remotely comparable.Last edited by yankees7448; 11-23-2018, 02:38 PM.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostSo your saying Canelo refused to negotiate on weight. The same thing you accuse Golovkin of.Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostCanelo is the A side AND the champion. The A side/Champion call the shots and Canelo was BOTH.
Gennady refused to "negotiate". They might've settled on 157 for all we know, but Gennady outright refused all catchweights..except for with Andre Ward...where he required his own catchweight
XD that's the beauty of GolovDUMP. He cant say one thing without contradicting himself in the same sentence. Kind of like Donald *****. Which is why Gennady groupies/blowjobbers like *****Originally posted by TonyGe View PostYou have to be kidding... LOL.. So the Middleweight champion multiple title holder is obligated to fight at the weight of the challenger. Your completly nuts. You should stop. Your so invested in your Golovkin fantasy you are losing perspective.
CANELO WAS THE CHAMPION.
CANELO IS/WAS THE "A" SIDE.
Canelo won the Lineal MW belt - CHAMPION - at 155 and offered to defend it at 155.
Gennady refused any catchweights for Canelo.
That's literally all that happened. It's taking you a long time to understand now, even just between the two of us, so I get why you're so confused.
Your boy Gennadyovich is bad, was bad, and didnt want to be exposed.
B..b..b.bb...BUT..he DREW with Ca$hnelo?!? Gennady got a gift draw, however, it was a competitive fight. So was Trout, Lara, and Cotto. Canelo is not good at separating himself from his competition no matter if they are great or above average
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostLook at how dumb these Gennady fans are.
CANELO WAS THE CHAMPION.
CANELO IS/WAS THE "A" SIDE.
Canelo won the Lineal MW belt - CHAMPION - at 155 and offered to defend it at 155.
Gennady refused any catchweights for Canelo.
That's literally all that happened. It's taking you a long time to understand now, even just between the two of us, so I get why you're so confused.
Your boy Gennadyovich is bad, was bad, and didnt want to be exposed.
B..b..b.bb...BUT..he DREW with Ca$hnelo?!? Gennady got a gift draw, however, it was a competitive fight. So was Trout, Lara, and Cotto. Canelo is not good at separating himself from his competition no matter if they are great or above averageLast edited by TonyGe; 11-23-2018, 12:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostIf you suggest Cotto was a ducker - which he never was at any time in his career - you just make yourself look bad. But gggroupies (like yourself) always find a way to "outdo yourself" and stoop even lower LMFAO...
Cotto says:
“Why not? We need to do our fights. Canelo sounds to be the next one. After that, if Gennady is available and he wants to fight, I’m available too.”
http://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/m...alvarez/263706
So if Cotto says that than that's what it was. Roach was the one who specified it would be a catchweight.
End of story.
Canelo was more than open to a fight, even within the 15-day deadline imposed on Canelo by the WBC...it just had to be at 155 pounds...the weight Canelo won the belt at.
“I have respect for him [Golovkin], but if we do fight, it’s going to be at my [natural] weight class [of 155 pounds]. I’m the champion. I don’t have to do what he wants,” Canelo said to ESPN.com.
https://www.************.com/2015/12...with-golovkin/
Canelo was also given 15 days by the WBC from the date of the Cotto win to negotiate a fight. 15 days. Oh and Canelo was dealing with millions of dollars in litigation - literally millions, $8.5 million to be exact.
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-contract-case
Oh and Canelo wound up having to pay that $8.5 million. However, the belt thing had nothing to do with their fight not being made in 2015. It was Gennady refusing the CW:
"Despite these changes, negotiations between both Golden Boy and Tom Loeffler's K2 Promotions, who represent Golovkin, appear to be running relatively smoothly with both parties not offering any of the negative soundbites endured months ago. De La Hoya released a statement of his own, which read: "Canelo...is eager to get in the ring with GGG to show the world that he is also the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport. But we won't negotiate under a forced deadline.'"
"Meanwhile, Loeffler told Dan Rafael of ESPN : "I'm still 100 percent confident that the fight will happen. Canelo is clearly the most marketable fighter in the sport of boxing, and that's not going to change our negotiating position, that he doesn't have the title. We will do what we can to make the fight in his next fight. If Canelo was afraid to fight Gennady he wouldn't have called him in the ring [after the Khan fight]. He called him in the ring out of respect and to show he wasn't afraid of Gennady."'
https://sports.vice.com/en_au/articl...g-negotiations
Even Tom Loeffler, GGG's promoter, says the belt didn't matter and that Canelo was not ducking.
Meanwhile Canelo was busy taking care of court cases that would turn into debt...
But, according to gggroupies, he was supposed to ignore that $8.5 million and negotiate a fight 2 weeks after his biggest career win in Cotto.
Yeah, you're an idiot.
GENTLEMAN- HERE ISTHE HYPOCRISY.
Yet Canelo, who had fought at 154-155 from April, 2013 against Trout until Liam Smith September,2016 to include Floyd, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Khan, and Cotto - where he won the MW title AT 155 - NOT 160
So, in your own words, how can Canelo "duck a guy" when he hadn't even made weight for the weight class???
Hello? Your own words. The hypocrisy of a Ggroupie. It's too easy, seriously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...anyone from154-168...at 160. Like how Gennady drug up Kell Brook from 147. rejected his CW request of 157, and fought at 160. Like how GGG wanted Ward, but at 164 (so much for not doing catchweights...lmfao...)
https://www.************.com/2016/03...ch-weight-157/
I just call yankees an idiot, and make fun of him
but exposing his lies and hypocrisy also works
GOOD post !!
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostSo your saying Canelo refused to negotiate on weight. The same thing you accuse Golovkin of.
what other middleweights did Canelo fight at 160 ?
Golovkin fought Rosado at 158
a few months after totally refusing to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... Golovkin said that he was ready willing and able to fight 154, but nobody would step up
I know you know this
I know you pretend to forget thisLast edited by aboutfkntime; 11-23-2018, 02:28 PM.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostYou have to be kidding... LOL.. So the Middleweight champion multiple title holder is obligated to fight at the weight of the challenger. Your completly nuts. You should stop. Your so invested in your Golovkin fantasy you are losing perspective.
he was willing to negotiate with no-hopers
but not with SUPERSTARS
which really is fkn hilarious
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you fcuk-boys can make childish excuses to justify Hypekin's selective matchmaking if you want
your problem is, Golovkin still has no signature win and no legacy
which one of these facts hurts the most ?
FACT: Sergio Mora has a better win than Golovkin
FACT: Broner has a better legacy than Golovkin loooool
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostLook at how dumb these Gennady fans are.
CANELO WAS THE CHAMPION.
CANELO IS/WAS THE "A" SIDE.
Canelo won the Lineal MW belt - CHAMPION - at 155 and offered to defend it at 155.
Gennady refused any catchweights for Canelo.
That's literally all that happened. It's taking you a long time to understand now, even just between the two of us, so I get why you're so confused.
Canelo won a middleweight belt and didn't want to fight middleweights so he tried to get a mandatory challenger (who was due to get a title shot regardless) to weight drain himself for the opportunity. The mandatory challenger said no. I want the belt. Rather than budge on weight Canelo threw the belt away.
That's literally all that happened.
Mothertruckers keep trying to make it sound like its complicated in order to justify making it seem like the guy who gave up the belt rather than fight is not the one who ducked fight. And its just silly. If you don't want to fight middleweights then don't win a middleweight title.Last edited by yankees7448; 11-23-2018, 10:04 PM.
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For f**ks sake. There is no 155lb division. There is a 154lb division and their is a 160lb division. Canelo tries to weight drain the other guy and gives up the belt when the other guy won't get bullied and these mothertruckers are trying to act like Canelo is the good guy in this situation. F u c k off.
There is no 155 pound division. The Canelo weight championship is a joke its not a real thing. Defend the belt at the weight of the division the belt is in or ***** off.
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