Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez vs. Rocky Fielding on December 15 at MSG

[pillowfists98]

Typical red balls. Don't move up to 168 and fight the best and actually win. Move up and fight someone no one has ever ****ing heard of EVER.

Typical?? He just beat the #1 fighter at 160. He also has one of the best resumes in boxing.

[BIG GUNZ]

Yeah right...

What’s the point of watching this garbage? It’s a joke. I have no interest in seeing these type of fights when you already know who’s going to win.

[Boxing Hero]

I love it! Canelo There's to be great and fights at a Higher weight division!

[Scipio2009]

You think Hearn can/will be able to afford paying Canelo $20M-$50M a fight like he could make on PPV? Cuz that would seem to what he'd need to offer him for it to make sense.

And thats just Canelo not the rest of the GBP fighters who might be worth a lot more in the near future. Munguia is a potential big star in another 12-24 months. Ryan Garcia has big potential in the next few years if he pans out (idk if I'd bet on him panning out, but maybe I'm wrong).

I've said it before but I don't think Eddie gets the back 6 years of his 8 year, $1b deal without making a move for someone like Alvarez.

With a billion dollars on the line, a 10-fight, $200m deal for Canelo to fight on DAZN in the US (assuming 10 PPVs, you're basically locking in an assumption of $450m in PPV revenues; averaging 650k PPVs per fight) is likely something that both sides would accept.

Beyond that, Munguia and Ryan Garcia and others may be potential big future stars, but they're no way near there now, and the path to even getting their isn't all that clear with the fights that Golden Boy could actually get either guy.

If Oscar gets $1m a show (for the likely 10 shows he's going to ask for the rest of his roster), it'll probably be an overpay.

Alvarez fights 10 times over the 4 years, Golden Boy Promotions gets 40 shows for their other guys over that same time, DAZN pays Hearn ~$450m for the US TV rights for that time, ~$250m goes to Alvarez/Golden Boy, Hearn pockets $200m for himself for the rest of his shows over that period, and then Hearn keeps the remaining $500m on the deal for himself and his company (Alvarez would be 33, after having been a pro fighter since he was 16, so I doubt he'd still have the urge to get beat on for much longer; have serious doubt that any other Golden Boy Promotions fighter gets to the point to warrant their own guaranteed money deal either)

[Scipio2009]

You think Hearn can/will be able to afford paying Canelo $20M-$50M a fight like he could make on PPV? Cuz that would seem to what he'd need to offer him for it to make sense.

And thats just Canelo not the rest of the GBP fighters who might be worth a lot more in the near future. Munguia is a potential big star in another 12-24 months. Ryan Garcia has big potential in the next few years if he pans out (idk if I'd bet on him panning out, but maybe I'm wrong).

Spend ~$300m with Alvarez/Golden Boy Promotions to get $700m for Matchroom Sport

[Scipio2009]

No it's a secondary belt that doesn't make you the best with the WBA. Canelo winning adds a notch on his legacy just like Roy beating Ruiz for the heavyweight title looks great on his resume but nobody said Roy was the best heavyweight he was too small and moved back down afterwards. Canelo is taking a voluntary and will be back down at 160 after this fight. It's pure hypocrisy to kill this belt at the same time using that same belt to inflate a bogus defense streak that GGG has as if his streak is the same as Hopkins LMAO

I'm just glad it took canelo fighting fielding for GGG fans to finally admit that the WBA Regular belt doesn't hold weight. That means GGG didn't really have 20 defenses record. Since he didn't actually win a major belt until he beat Geale in 2014 and has only actually had 9 real defenses which is nothing special.

John Ruiz was the actual WBA heavyweight champion though

[Eff Pandas]

Spend ~$300m with Alvarez/Golden Boy Promotions to get $700m for Matchroom Sport

You don't think Oscar understands how valuable Canelo is? I think Oscar is dumb, but I don't think he's THAT dumb. PPV upside is the biggest upside in the game. And its in theory unlimited. And GBP was living off of Canelo fights up to a couple years back & we have every reason to believe they still are. They aren't gonna limit their upside with a flat rate DAZN deal. Or a flat rate deal with anyone I don't think. It makes zero sense.

But again I'll say if they can put their bs fights on DAZN like this Fielding fight & then fight GGG 3 on ESPN or Showtime I think its a makeable deal. And Canelo is a big enough name to pull that sorta card if he/Oscar wanna.

[Eff Pandas]

I've said it before but I don't think Eddie gets the back 6 years of his 8 year, $1b deal without making a move for someone like Alvarez.

Idk if I buy that, but I do buy the deal could end tomorrow or in 7yrs cuz I'm sure DAZN gots the ability to end it for random reasons at any point for any reason. I think anyone doing what they are doing realized this is a long game doe so unless Hearn gets caught with a ****** & a midget & the bad press won't stop I don't think he'll lose the deal.

That said OF COURSE he gots to make an offer for a guy like Canelo or any top face of boxing type guy. Doesn't mean he's gonna get Canelo or any other specific face of boxing type guy doe.

With a billion dollars on the line, a 10-fight, $200m deal for Canelo to fight on DAZN in the US (assuming 10 PPVs, you're basically locking in an assumption of $450m in PPV revenues; averaging 650k PPVs per fight) is likely something that both sides would accept.

Thats a 5 year deal max (2 fights/year) & you just spent 20% of Eddie 8 years worth of money. And at $20M per fight I'd argue thats a lowball offer at that. Canelo is FOR SURE gonna average more than $20M per fight with his PPV revenue. That'd be a dumb deal for Canelo & Oscar.

Beyond that, Munguia and Ryan Garcia and others may be potential big future stars, but they're no way near there now, and the path to even getting their isn't all that clear with the fights that Golden Boy could actually get either guy.

If Oscar gets $1m a show (for the likely 10 shows he's going to ask for the rest of his roster), it'll probably be an overpay.

So $200M for Canelo & $10M a year for 5 years = $250M or 25% of Eddie alleged bankroll for 8 years to get one guy? He's got 3 full years + a ton of other dates.

If anything I don't think DAZN should let Eddie make this deal at all. DAZN should make a private deal with Oscar themselves like they seem to have done with WBSS.

Canelo shouldn't be under the Matchroom banner. He's too strong of a player. Would make a lot more sense for that to go down then any of this Eddie sh^t with how big a guy Canelo is in the game. Canelo ain't joining the Tevin Farmer, Demetrius Andrade roster lol. He's his own roster.

But they are gonna need to do a better than 250M deal for 5 years with Canelo in the mix. Or they need to give Canelo an out to do PPV's elsewhere or DAZN is gonna need to charge extra for Canelo fights which could be doable to idk. I mean all this sh^t is changing the game so I think a lot of sh^t is in play if the plan & money make sense. $20M a fight don't make sense for Canelo doe.

[Jsmooth9876]

Champion? **** no. No one recognizes this belt as anything the **** at all.

You may have missed the sarcasm in my post

[!! Shawn]

We're acknowledging the WBA 'Regular' World title now, then?

Still, good play by Canelo - Fielding may not be that good but Canelo's definitely building a legacy here, by adding even an iffy title at SMW.

Let call it what it is, a stay busy fight where Canelo doesn't want to have to bother making weight.

90% of the people here have never heard of the guy. He cant punch, and hes already been knocked out.