Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Slams Whyte: Strap Your Nuts On, Face Me on Dec. 1

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Lololololol...

The Operative word in the sentence was Can’t. If you understood the true meaning of that complex word even with my misplaced sentence structuring you would have arrived at the same destination as I wanted to convey

lol, well you're missing punctuation, and you used the word "he" identifying word for Whyte, so with out punctuation when you reused the word "he" you inadvertently suggested that it was Whyte who was more popular. LOL 'm just saying. Anyway I think you're British right? So I wasn't trying to correct your grammar which is more than likely similar but a bit different then the way Americans write, I was just explaining why I missed the point you were trying to make.

[Noelanthony]

lol, well you're missing punctuation, and you used the word "he" identifying word for Whyte, so with out punctuation when you reused the word "he" you inadvertently suggested that it was Whyte who was more popular. LOL 'm just saying. Anyway I think you're British right? So I wasn't trying to correct your grammar which is more than likely similar but a bit different then the way Americans write, I was just explaining why I missed the point you were trying to make.

True true..

[KnickTillDeaTh]

The Whyte vs Chisora fight was a great fight but if Whyte really wants to make noise and at least justify his name being in the running to fight AJ in April then he has to fight Ortiz in December. I think only then if he comes out victorious , fans on both side of the pond will grudgingly accept he has deserved his shot at AJ. Baring Wilder nobody deserves the fight more than Whyte.

If There is no Wilder fight April the winner of Whyte vs Ortiz gets their shot at AJ in April

I agree. However, I don't see in anyway that Hearn would allow this fight to happen. Hearn does not want AJ to fight Ortiz, that fact is evidenced by Hearn avoiding this exact situation even when Ortiz was signed with him. Hearn will not want to take a chance of Ortiz defeating Whyte, then Hearn gets Fhucked on two different levels. 1) It would almost certainly force him to put AJ in with Ortiz, which is a fight Hearn doesn't want. 2) He loses the big pay day, easy win opponent for AJ in Whyte. If Hearn ends up putting AJ in with Miller, then subsequently having to justify why they didn't fight Ortiz since Whyte was AJ's next fight anyway, all the while the entire public will be saying, since you didn't have Whyte, and you don't want to fight Ortiz, why didn't you just fight the Wilder/Fury winner. Oh man that would be a cluster fhuck for Hearn.

I would love to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but I also think Whyte should fight Breazeal, or even Ortiz vs. Breazeal. I'll take either of those fights with high enthusiasm.

[Noelanthony]

I agree. However, I don't see in anyway that Hearn would allow this fight to happen. Hearn does not want AJ to fight Ortiz, that fact is evidenced by Hearn avoiding this exact situation even when Ortiz was signed with him. Hearn will not want to take a chance of Ortiz defeating Whyte, then Hearn gets Fhucked on two different levels. 1) It would almost certainly force him to put AJ in with Ortiz, which is a fight Hearn doesn't want. 2) He loses the big pay day, easy win opponent for AJ in Whyte. If Hearn ends up putting AJ in with Miller, then subsequently having to justify why they didn't fight Ortiz since Whyte was AJ's next fight anyway, all the while the entire public will be saying, since you didn't have Whyte, and you don't want to fight Ortiz, why didn't you just fight the Wilder/Fury winner. Oh man that would be a cluster fhuck for Hearn.

I would love to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but I also think Whyte should fight Breazeal, or even Ortiz vs. Breazeal. I'll take either of those fights with high enthusiasm.

Sooner or later for Hearn to be accepted in the states he is going to have to appease the American fans.

I believe more fighters would join Dazn if it wasn’t considered a cardinal sin. Imagine Spence’s public image if he jumped Ship.

Fans are very fickle if Al Haymon came out and publicly stated that him and Hearn were working hand in hand in some deals concerning some of his fighters, watch the change in perception towards Hearn with certain fans , not all but ones that don’t like him because of their allegiance with a promoter or fighter.

There is no doubt Hearn has to take a leap of faith and start delivering. I honestly believe Ortiz vs Whyte will take place. I could be wrong.

Hearn wants to be a big player in the states so he needs to deliver big fights over there. What way than throwing his main guys in the deep end.( baring AJ , we want our emperor to stay here where is nice and safe and cosy��)

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Sooner or later for Hearn to be accepted in the states he is going to have to appease the American fans.

I believe more fighters would join Dazn if it wasn’t considered a cardinal sin. Imagine Spence’s public image if he jumped Ship.

Fans are very fickle if Al Haymon came out and publicly stated that him and Hearn were working hand in hand in some deals concerning some of his fighters, watch the change in perception towards Hearn with certain fans , not all but ones that don’t like him because of their allegiance with a promoter or fighter.

There is no doubt Hearn has to take a leap of faith and start delivering. I honestly believe Ortiz vs Whyte will take place. I could be wrong.

Hearn wants to be a big player in the states so he needs to deliver big fights over there. What way than throwing his main guys in the deep end.( baring AJ , we want our emperor to stay here where is nice and safe and cosy��)

Yeah I don't think Haymon would have a problem working with Hearn. I think the only thing in the way of that is actually DAZN. Haymon is PBC, under CBS, which owns Showtime, who both broadcasts and streams PBC's biggest fights. Obviously there could be ways to get deals done, but I think it would take DAZN putting up a lot of money to get Showtime to allow them to co-stream the event. DAZN just gave Hearn a gang of money so I would think they'd be reluctant to pay even more for fights they technically already paid for. But hopefully we get some sort of cross promotions between the carriers.

[Ray*]

Yep Whyte wants the fight on the 22nd Dec and Hearn has already had talks with Ortiz people

Yeah I don’t think Ortiz should be an undercard fighters anymore, if he can indeed headline the Whyte card on the 22nd of December then he should withdraw from the December 1st card.

[Ray*]

Sooner or later for Hearn to be accepted in the states he is going to have to appease the American fans.

I believe more fighters would join Dazn if it wasn’t considered a cardinal sin. Imagine Spence’s public image if he jumped Ship.

Fans are very fickle if Al Haymon came out and publicly stated that him and Hearn were working hand in hand in some deals concerning some of his fighters, watch the change in perception towards Hearn with certain fans , not all but ones that don’t like him because of their allegiance with a promoter or fighter.

There is no doubt Hearn has to take a leap of faith and start delivering. I honestly believe Ortiz vs Whyte will take place. I could be wrong.

Hearn wants to be a big player in the states so he needs to deliver big fights over there. What way than throwing his main guys in the deep end.( baring AJ , we want our emperor to stay here where is nice and safe and cosy��)

Fuck the American fans, he should appease to all boxing fans, Latino fans are the most knowledgeable fans in boxing and they also put their money where their mouth is, if he wants to just appease a certain demographic then he should take the lead from what Arum use to do with the Latino cards/fighters.

[JWHardin]

I agree. However, I don't see in anyway that Hearn would allow this fight to happen. Hearn does not want AJ to fight Ortiz, that fact is evidenced by Hearn avoiding this exact situation even when Ortiz was signed with him. Hearn will not want to take a chance of Ortiz defeating Whyte, then Hearn gets Fhucked on two different levels. 1) It would almost certainly force him to put AJ in with Ortiz, which is a fight Hearn doesn't want. 2) He loses the big pay day, easy win opponent for AJ in Whyte. If Hearn ends up putting AJ in with Miller, then subsequently having to justify why they didn't fight Ortiz since Whyte was AJ's next fight anyway, all the while the entire public will be saying, since you didn't have Whyte, and you don't want to fight Ortiz, why didn't you just fight the Wilder/Fury winner. Oh man that would be a cluster fhuck for Hearn.

I would love to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but I also think Whyte should fight Breazeal, or even Ortiz vs. Breazeal. I'll take either of those fights with high enthusiasm.

You are right. Hearn will never put Joshua or Whyte in with Ortiz.

[Noelanthony]

Fuck the American fans, he should appease to all boxing fans, Latino fans are the most knowledgeable fans in boxing and they also put their money where their mouth is, if he wants to just appease a certain demographic then he should take the lead from what Arum use to do with the Latino cards/fighters.

I agree , I only said Al Haymon has he has the biggest stable and notably its his top heavyweight why the name Hearn is taboo.. I would had said Oscar but he only really has Canelo.

If he puts on the fights that fans want to see everything will take care of itself

[champion4ever]

Perhaps Eddie Hearn would consider putting Whyte in the ring with Ortiz after all. However, he needs the assurance that he could get Wilder vs Joshua on April 13; Because Ortiz is a very risky fight for Whyte and if he loses Joshua won't have a dance partner for that April date.

Also, it is probably the reason why he wanted a meeting with Team Wilder this week; In order to see if they can close a Wilder deal by December of this year, so he could probably get that Whyte vs Ortiz elimination bout for the second mandatory challenger for Wilder's WBC title.