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  • Scary_canary
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    #131
    Originally posted by filup79
    Just like now the WBC is ordering Charlo to fight GGG to be Canelo's mandatory. This after Charlo has fought eliminators and became interim champ.
    I was so surprised by this.... I love golovkin and am happy they have ordered it..... but that never happens normally the ex champ would move down to 7th or8th and have to work his way back up

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    • Boksfan
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      #132
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      He had a chance in 2016.

      Ortiz declined.

      He challenged Ortiz again ( selective memories) and Ortiz said he needed more time so Parker jumped in the ALREADY scheduled date set at O2 arena..

      Whyte wants a belt,fighting Ortiz doresnt get him that bc hes already at a number one spot to fight Joshua in another sanctioning body.

      Only a fool takes an Ortiz fightif he has to wait 2 years for Wilder who wont have his title anyway in 2020 bc he most likely loses his next fight and /or Joshua gets him.

      wilder cant avoid relevant fights anymore those days are gone which is bad news for a wilder fan bc they don't like him in relevant fights, we KNOW this bc posters like you continuously defend ******ity and make excuses for him like his fan base always do.....
      You are talking to Wildher nuthugger there, don't expect him to understand facts.

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      • Boksfan
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        #133
        Originally posted by landotter
        I agree Whyte has fought his way back into true title contention. I do not think he needs to fight anyone else to prove himself. His resume the last few fights is more than enough.

        I do hope Ortiz gets another chance. I still believe my own eyes he is the third best HW, but he needs to find some serious good fights to beef that resume up. While I get that Whyte is a live dog and Fury has made his living proving people wrong, let's just roll with the obvious outcomes: Wilder fights and defeats Fury in December. Whyte gets a big check for a well earned rematch with Joshua in April which most likely ends the same as the first fight: Joshua winning. Then Wilder/Joshua happens next, either Summer of 2018 or early fall 2018.

        In that scenario, every other HW needs to work to get in a position to challenge the Joshua/Wilder unified winner. Ortiz needs to be busy, and other HWs need a name like Ortiz to prove their worthiness. So 2-3 matches with the other top names needing dance cards filled makes sense.
        That's what would happen in ideal world but top contenders might as well sit on the shelf and do nothing waiting for a voluntary.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #134
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          no. sanctioning bodies have eliminators and final eliminators. final eliminators make you the mandatory. eliminators entitle you to a final eliminator. whyte was entitled to a final eliminator, but turned it down.
          Everytime you want to prove right but let me tell you and Suleiman are wrong.
          Whyte is #1 and his fight with Browne was suppose to be the final eliminator.

          That aside, wilder was offered 5mil to fight whyte in the US but turned it down to fight a voluntary for 2.1mil.

          One thing I love about wilder is he always have a way to avoid live body's.

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          • Marvlus Marv
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            #135
            Originally posted by Jkp
            He only survived against Parker, because of the lucky head butt knock down.

            Whyte is 1 fight away from being exposed horribly by the first top level boxer he faces .
            That footwork, the punch variety, the incredible ring IQ and that incredible physique.. A more complete fighter than Ali? I can't wait til he gets pummeled.

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            • Jkp
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              #136
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Well of course Parker would say AFTER the fight that the headbutt caused him some trouble. He's just looking for excuses. If it caused him even the slightest problems, he would have put his glove to his head or said something. But he did nothing because nothing was wrong.

              There is a process to be followed? How, when the ref didn't even see the head clash? Neither did we at home until the 3rd slow mo replay.
              You sure are a special type of ret4rd.
              I honestly don't know if your being serious with these comments or not?

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              • _Rexy_
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                #137
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Well of course Parker would say AFTER the fight that the headbutt caused him some trouble. He's just looking for excuses. If it caused him even the slightest problems, he would have put his glove to his head or said something. But he did nothing because nothing was wrong.

                There is a process to be followed? How, when the ref didn't even see the head clash? Neither did we at home until the 3rd slow mo replay.
                So...you don’t think that a headbutt being incorrectly called a knockdown in a fight that Parker lost by 2 points was a non factor?

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                • Jkp
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by landotter
                  I agree Whyte has fought his way back into true title contention. I do not think he needs to fight anyone else to prove himself. His resume the last few fights is more than enough.

                  I do hope Ortiz gets another chance. I still believe my own eyes he is the third best HW, but he needs to find some serious good fights to beef that resume up. While I get that Whyte is a live dog and Fury has made his living proving people wrong, let's just roll with the obvious outcomes: Wilder fights and defeats Fury in December. Whyte gets a big check for a well earned rematch with Joshua in April which most likely ends the same as the first fight: Joshua winning. Then Wilder/Joshua happens next, either Summer of 2018 or early fall 2018.

                  In that scenario, every other HW needs to work to get in a position to challenge the Joshua/Wilder unified winner. Ortiz needs to be busy, and other HWs need a name like Ortiz to prove their worthiness. So 2-3 matches with the other top names needing dance cards filled makes sense.
                  Whyte won the lottery against parker thanks to his head butt knock down.
                  His signature win it's against an old fat browne, your in fairy land if you think that he deserves a title shot.

                  His only other achievement is getting pummeled by AJ.

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                  • Fabes88
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by MC Hammer
                    You're rewriting history because no one thought Parker had a chance with AJ. The Whyte fight flew below my radar so I can't say about opinions there
                    Lol. Whatever. Plenty of people did and if you were on the forums back then you’d know it.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      Whyte is #1 and his fight with Browne was suppose to be the final eliminator.
                      thats a lie. was never supposed to be a final eliminator. who told you that? hearn?

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