Hearn admits his initial offers to Wilder were complete rubbish

[New England]

This is 2018. One thing you never see me on here doing is discussing Mayweather-Pacquiao. That is old news. You gotta move on.

just accept that floyd didn't want to fight pacquaiao until he'd made his money and manny was old. pacquiap and camp were fine with it, just admit that floyd was too. might be tough if you're not an honest man.

[Bobby Shaw]

By offering Wilder a percentage split vs the flat fee offered previously Hearn is basically admitting those offers were not realistic. Hearn had claimed Wilder didn't deserve a percentage split because he wasn't a big enough draw. Absolutely nothing has changed since those initial offers. Wilder hasn't fought. The new offer was made before any tickets were sold for Wilder-Fury. Just goes to show once again that Hearn wasn't serious about making the fight because he was sending fake offers.

Something has changed. Wilder is fighting his first big opponent with a pulse so he will be well known after the Fury fight.

[Bobby Shaw]

just accept that floyd didn't want to fight pacquaiao until he'd made his money and manny was old. pacquiap and camp were fine with it, just admit that floyd was too. might be tough if you're not an honest man.

It wasn't Floyd who was scared of needles and didn't want blood tests claiming they made him weak.

[koolkc107]

Definitely not factual considering you're working out a percentage split on an ESTIMATED purse value.

Also AJ has increased his stock unifying and whatever which has increased his stock, do you not think AJ deserves to see his highest payday go up Equally as proportional as Wilders if we are being fair? I do appreciate AJ will have to somewhat buy the belt off Wilder so this won't work but everyone forgets that AJ is increasing his worth but never seems to get the benefit of this when talking splits.

In regards to the fight not being next surely Wilder shares some responsibility as he should have asked for it to be put in the contract instead of waiting two weeks and moaning after the WBA called the mandatory when knew they had been delaying months and Hearn repeatedly warned them. I'm sure Hearn wouldn't have been able to refuse if Wilder had requested and if he did then the fault would be completely with Hearn.

All fight purses are a function of ESTIMATIONS.

Last November, Eddie Hearn was supposed get back to Finkel with projections (estimates) of how a Wilder vs AJ fight would do in the States and in the UK. Fast Eddie was supposed to "crunch the numbers" after his old man Barry and Shelley had talked.

That didn't happen.

Instead, Eddie decide to deal with Parker, giving him 33%.

If Parker is worth 33% then, Wilder was definitely worth 40% for a September fight, which is what he asked for.

Instead, in a fight that would have been worth (by most sane folk's estimate) 60M in the UK and 100M in the US, Hearn offered 15M.

Those are facts, and everyone but AJ fanboys can see them clearly

[Eff Pandas]

So that means make the offer AFTER Wilder wins. Right?

Thats what it means to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

Wilder's value increases immensely after a official W & after they got a PPV revenue dollar amount + gate among other concrete figures they can prove exist to Hearn. I don't think its crazy this fight exceeds the PPV revenue of Joshua's biggest fights. If thats doable or comes close to happening that'll make this fight close to if not a 50/50 purse split fight.

And if Wilder loses, which is a risk he surely knows he's taking, just like Joshua knew he is risking HIS biggest payday by fighting Povetkin last month or Whyte in April, then this fight loses its value for both fighters.

[Ray*]

The more Wilder gets known the better the offer, the new offers represent his new/growing status. After december 1st that would be elevated up some more thus a better offer should be made. But we have went from "He doesn't care about the financial doe to its about more money"

[N/A]

They wouldn't be offering a guy 5x+ what he's ever made if they didn't want the fight.

You have no idea what Wilder has made.

If they wanted the fight, they would have done the fight in September when Wilder accepted the flat fee instead of telling Wilder they'd decided to face Povetkin first, but that they could do the fight in April.

[Motorcity Cobra]

just accept that floyd didn't want to fight pacquaiao until he'd made his money and manny was old. pacquiap and camp were fine with it, just admit that floyd was too. might be tough if you're not an honest man.

Bruh. Im not discussing Floyd-Pac on Al Gore's internet in 2018 the year of our Lord

[Motorcity Cobra]

It wasn't Floyd who was scared of needles and didn't want blood tests claiming they made him weak.

Y'all have to let this go.....it's 2018

[VERSION1 (V1)]

the phrase 'damned if you do, damned if you dont' comes to mind. hes trying to do all he can to get the fight on and youre still criticising him lol

so why he did make this offer first