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  • Erik Morales vs Juan Manuel Marquez

    Both have defeated Pacquiao.

    Who would have won at Featherweight?
    45
    El Terrible
    64.44%
    29
    Dinamita
    35.56%
    16

  • #2
    My biggest question is why the two never fought?

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    • #3
      I would have chosen Morales on his work rate alone. Marquez was a nice counter combination puncher. However, I do not believe he had carried enough power to even hurt or let alone KO a prime Erik Morales.

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      • #4
        Erik Morales was a great boxer but loved to get in there and brawl. He would have tried to brawl with Marquez which would have favoured Marquez style.
        I would say Marquez wins a UD.

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        • #5
          Marquez is the better fighter.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            My biggest question is why the two never fought?
            The word at time was he was avoided. I don’t remember all the details but I was a huge JMM fan and he was flying below the radar.

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            • #7
              I like Marquez but he generally gets overrated because he happened to give Pac a lot of trouble. Outside of that, he failed some of his stiffest tests. While I think this can go either way, prime for prime I'll go with Morales.
              Last edited by Redd Foxx; 10-01-2018, 09:26 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                My biggest question is why the two never fought?
                Marquez priced himself out. He was offered 1.5million for the Morales fight, but he and Nacho claimed Top Rank were going to keep half of it, so they'd only see 750k.

                They countered with 3.5million... which was an INSANE figure at that time and it killed the fight. Pac, Barrera, and Morales weren't even making that much.

                Marquez and Nacho were famously difficult at the time, but Top Rank treated Marquez like the red headed stepchild. He wasn't a ticketseller like Morales was.

                Had the fight been made 03-04, Morales would have outworked him. 116-112, and Marquez and Nacho would have cried robbery.
                Last edited by paulf; 10-01-2018, 08:42 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                  I like Marquez but he generally gets overrated because he happened to give Pac a lot of trouble. Outside of that, he failed some of his stiffest tests. While I think this can go either way, prime for prime is go with Morales.
                  The people who praised JMM were mostly Pac haters. I love watching Marquez but the guys best moments all revolve around Pacman.

                  The Mexicans didnt even like him back in the day they said he was not Mexican style that he was a boring counter puncher, Pac basically made him famous none of the others wanted to fight him thats why they called JMM the avoided one.

                  Marquez is one of the more overrated fighters, this guy was getting touched up by scrubs like Jimrix Jaco, and some thai fighter that means his defense was ****, if you put Pacman in with those guys he wouldn't have a scratch on him and would have knocked them spark out early. and like you said he only got praised for giving Pacman a draw I remember when that fight happened people were giving him so many props for surviving rather than scoring the fight fair Pac had that fight won by a point or two.

                  The second fight was close but Pacman had it 115-113, the third fight I gave it to Marquez but the last 4 rounds he stared coasting Nacho told him survive don't get caught because he felt the reason they lost the last two was due to knockdowns.

                  and the 4th one he got the KO while getting battered, I predicted he would do this because he was roided to the gills and he was dropping guys with that punch, Pacman would not be able to take that he got hit with it many times before.

                  Marquez is very overrated his main asset is his HEART and ability to take a beating, he is no defensive wizard he gets hit WAYYYY more than Pacquiao plus doenst clinch or use a double guard, his main thing is to side step and counter.

                  Erik Morales would have beat him prime for prime.

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                  • #10
                    Morales ****s Marquez shit up.

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