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  • #81
    Yea, this is soooo surprising, not.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by TinAgeOfBoxing View Post
          Top fighters use drugs. That is one of the reasons they look so good compared to the lower ranking "bums". The only way to even the playing field is to end the fantasy land prohibition that has never worked once in human history and is 100% guaranteed to never work.
          You can't have that though. The human body isn't designed to take the type of punishment that PEDs allow guys to inflict for as long as you can inflict it.

          That's one of the reasons the NFL is having the problems it is as guys are getting bigger, stronger, and faster, and are laying down hits that shouldn't be humanly possible.

          Also, then you'd be forcing people who don't want to cheat to cheat. What about them?

          Now, I have to pump my body with possibly cancer causing chemicals if I want to feed my family?

          I know it's hard to try to get drugs out of sport, but you can't give up, because you'd be dooming clean athletes.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            UKAD is lax.
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            UKAD follows WADA protocol same as USADA etc. How are they lax?
            USADA let Floyd use BANNED ILLEGAL IV.

            So I agree with ShoulderRoll on this one! There can be loopholes and instances where their NADO will just do the minimum possible to abide by WADA rules. Something that WADA warns the NADO's NOT to do but it has happened, as you can see.


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            • #86
              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              USADA let Floyd use BANNED ILLEGAL IV.

              So I agree with ShoulderRoll on this one! There can be loopholes and instances where their NADO will just do the minimum possible to abide by WADA rules. Something that WADA warns the NADO's NOT to do but it has happened, as you can see.


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              #FloydRuinsLives

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              • #87
                Originally posted by b00g13man View Post


                Floyd fans excuse for anything against their hero Floyd: #FloydRuinsLives
                Fixed it for you!


                Dude, the Head of WADA TUEC and doctor said that Floyd should NOT have received a RETRO TUE! USADA gave him one!

                Secondly, the way they test is only limited to weeks before a fight. Floyd restricts that further by signing to fight close to the fight date while we both know he is already training and has time to do whatever he wants! Floyd controls the testing period!



                Third, Floyd pays off USADA and got USADA a foot into pro boxing. USADA just returned the favor!



                Here is Conte stating what I am saying.

                "And let me say that WADA testing, is considered the gold standard. But it is not. and the reason, what people have to understand is, that it's NOT very effective because they have 2 types of testing. In and out of competition testing. So in between fights and on fight night. And what people do not realize is that the list of PEDs that they test for in between fights is very limited"

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                Last edited by ADP02; 10-02-2018, 01:19 AM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Fixed it for you!


                  Dude, the Head of WADA TUEC and doctor said that Floyd should NOT have received a RETRO TUE! USADA gave him one!

                  Secondly, the way they test is only limited to weeks before a fight. Floyd restricts that further by signing to fight close to the fight date while we both know he is already training and has time to do whatever he wants! Floyd controls the testing period!

                  Third, Floyd pays off USADA and got USADA a foot into pro boxing. USADA just returned the favor!



                  Here is Conte stating what I am saying.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    USADA let Floyd use BANNED ILLEGAL IV.

                    So I agree with ShoulderRoll on this one! There can be loopholes and instances where their NADO will just do the minimum possible to abide by WADA rules. Something that WADA warns the NADO's NOT to do but it has happened, as you can see.


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                    Pay up on the bet you lost.

                    How are you not ashamed to be posting here after welching on your bet?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by b00g13man View Post

                      Like usual, you have nothing to say!


                      Now read my post below. The report to WADA brings up what I mentioned!



                      Here are some of the issues that was reported by NADO's (there are others)

                      Weaknesses Observed

                      - Lack of independence within many NADOs (including due to funding by governments, and government pressures to keep positive results secret, so as not to have positive national tests)

                      - Unwillingness of stakeholders to provide sufficient funding of NADOs, despite increased demands for activities on the part of the NADOs 

                      - Lack of interest in effectiveness of anti-doping programs

                      – sole concern is showing minimal Code compliance


                      - Lack of information on how doped athletes are able to survive the testing system without detection (e.g., outside pre-knowledge, micro dosages, failure to observe provision of urine samples) 

                      - Lack of commitment by many NADOs to serious anti-doping efforts

                      - No incentive to catch dopers in their countries

                      -Dis*****g the necessity to fight against doping in sport 

                      - Lack of dedicated and competent in-house management resources 

                      - No standards established to ensure minimum competence of NADOs (as there are for laboratory accreditation), especially with respect to quality standards for testing, monitoring Code compliance and testing efficacy 

                      - Interference by governments in NADO activities 

                      - Lack of focused analysis by the sports officials with the most intimate knowledge of their sports of the reasons for low proportion of positive tests (especially by sports with known doping problems) 

                      - Denial of existence of doping by certain sports and sports leaders 

                      - Reluctance of certain IFs to allow testing of their athletes by independent agencies and/or NADOs 

                      - Resistance to increased use of non-analytical positives as tool for anti-doping activities 

                      - Confusion as to roles of NADOs and NOCs





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