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  • Citizen Koba
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    #121
    Originally posted by tokon
    There's very little random testing done in UK and virtually none "out of season" i.e. without a fight contract being in place

    Wonder why . . .
    Same everywhere, man, not just the UK. The Clean Boxing Program promises lots but when you actually look at who's been tested and when it turns out it's almost exclusively fighters who are under contract to test for a particular fight. **** sounds good but in reality it's business as usual.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #122
      Conte was right Saunders stripped and suspended

      https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795136

      World Boxing Organization President Francisco "Paco" Valcarcel has confirmed that Billy Joe Saunders is no longer the WBO middleweight world champion.

      “BJ Saunders has voluntarily vacated the WBO Middleweight Title, and publicly apologized for his violation of the Massachusetts Athletic Commission's anti-doping regulations. Therefore, the clash between Demetrius Andrade and Walter Kautondonkwa scheduled for October 20th will now be for the vacant world crown," Valcarcel said.

      “Also, I will recommend to the WBO Executive Committee that Saunders receives a six month suspension for his transgression”.

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      • tokon
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        #123
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
        Same everywhere, man, not just the UK. The Clean Boxing Program promises lots but when you actually look at who's been tested and when it turns out it's almost exclusively fighters who are under contract to test for a particular fight. **** sounds good but in reality it's business as usual.
        Yes, very true, it's sad to say.

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            #125
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            Conte needs to be a bit more specific than that. It is 10x stronger in what respect? - how is it even possible to make such a comparison between two completely different drugs? Unless he's a bit more specific or provides some qualification that claim is effectively meaningless and completely unscientific. Certainly in term of potency by mass the claim is utterly false based on the qualities of Oxilofrine found in supplements which are in some cases thousands of times greater by RDA (indicating a weaker drug) than the****utic level doses of Clenbuterol... like I say though - to even try to compare two different types of drug in this way is meaningless.

            It's kinda like saying Meth is stronger than Heroin or vice versa, what does that even mean? What aspect of the drug is even being compared? Without such information it's smoke and bull****.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 10-12-2018, 12:02 PM.

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            • tokon
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              #126
              Does it actually matter how much stronger than clen it is? It's banned under VADA and Saunders was using it, almost certainly to cut weight whilst retaining muscle.

              I hope that ingles fighters start getting looked at more carefully now.

              Another thing that spring to mind was Saunders' good buddy Tyson Fury's recent dramatic and drastic weight reduction . . . . .

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #127
                Kryptonites n’shet

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