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  • #31
    Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
    Damn! Well said AGAIN!.....Mike has some very good points though. At the moment, there are no larger than life personalities on the scene. Mikey Garcias "ambition" is a nice reprieve, but I can't think of ONE 'stand out' whose "personality" has me gripped, Mayweather was the last & Mike before him....This ordeal, its not such a bad thing, its just that these new guys happen to be more reserved, but it doesnt bode well, it seems, for boxing...I'm still always gonna watch, because at least they arent missing in the "skilz" dept.

    But the JUICED android over there on the island is only thriving because the boredom level over there has reached circuit overload pub drinkin' schizophrenia!! Plus the super hero look-a-like has gotten its super powers the old fashioned way - not from a radioactive spider or from gamma radiation - he's gotten it from the good ole' PED UK laboratories!! With the confidentiality agreement of Hearns Sr. & Jr. leading the way!!

    Now greedy condescending Hearns demands that Wilder "sign now" BEFORE Wilder can take a significant step in upping his career earning power & popularity?!?....Hearn believes Wilder deserves no such opportunities(?), just the "opportunity" to CHASE his JUICED can-can to no end - offering nothing respectable, while admittedly giving every other lesser opponent "overpaid" money(?)....A FIRST in the history of heavyweight boxing!!
    Best personalities in heavyweight are Fury, briggs, miller, and whyte.. 160 charlo, saunders, andrade 154, charlo, 147, thurman, a.b, spence.. when he's hammered drunk! Lol
    Last edited by 5000boxing; 09-29-2018, 06:19 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
      Well you have to be in todays boxing world. The fans are are more sensitive these days. A guy says a curse word and then there’s a 10 page thread on boxingscene calling him a thug and telling the other fans to boycott his fight. Just imagine Tyson in this era he would be more hated than Floyd imo.
      Or my favorite NSB quote - "I lost all respect for (insert name)"... When I see someone write that sh^t, I move on to the next post.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by AdonisCreed View Post
        MMA isn't all that great. I watched MMA religiously for a while especially the ultimate fighter show and it just doesn't fill the void the way boxing does and the fights that are decent they try to force you to buy the ppv for it even with B and C level guys. I prefer the sweet science all day long.
        Agreed....and it seems like when these guys suffer "a loss" they're never quite the same(Chuck Liddell, Quinton Jackson etc,.)....Some of these BRUTAL KO's are like suffering the equivalent of 3 & 4 in boxing. Doesnt make for a healthy life when its all said an done....I'll pass (I'll watch it here & there), give me the "sweet science" too...

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        • #34
          I'd say it's moreso that fights take forever and then don't deliver, consistently, mixed with crazy high PPV demands. Being back on network TV could be a good thing, so that people can actually become interested in marquee fighters without having to spend $80.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 5000boxing View Post
            No mike.. its because Joshua is a dirty cheating english mcmuffin robot with no personality chip upgrade.. that needs to fight at home so he can pass his UKAD random testing. That fool is afraid of full random VADA testing from the WBC! AJ will never leave his magical hog***** home, hometown judges, refs, and familiar middle-earth hospital staff!!! ($80 million+ guaranteed) isn't important to Joshua/Hearn, and he will take a paycut to face Wilder at home.. for his fans., an Wilder is the fight the fans all want.. and eddie says this will be the biggest fight in heavyweight history.. but giving Wilder more than a $15 million flat is a joke because Wilder is a birdleg windmill bum with a bum resume, who AJ can KO in 3rds. Which is why AJ told his fans to go to the gym and train to fight Wilder and AJ said give me 50 million and I will take that fight tomorrow... then said "let's roll" with a fire emoji.. then all of a sudden its "im not selling my soul.. ! Hearn said Wembley isn't available in September for Wilder.. because Wilder took to long to sign, eddie said maybe cardiff in October, November,.. then all of a sudden it's Povetkin September 22 live at Wembley! LMAO!!! Not to mention up to a week before the WBA 24 Bullshyte.. eddie still sent contracts with no date or location.. wtf!! Thats a fact!! But Wilder ducked AJ doe???.. lol. This is wild.. Ok.
            Somebody needs to take a chill pill. Maybe boxing isn't for you I can feel your bloody pressure raising just reading this rant lol. You can't blame the lack of personality in boxing on one person, you've just used Mike's comments to unload a load of crud onto Joshua. One thing Joshua is not, is a fool. He's got the best resume in heavyweight boxing by a massive margin and is planning out his career to a tee. He's earning a mega amount too and has a long way to go yet he's in it for the long haul.

            Why go for the biggest fight straight away when you can build it for a while first? If Wilder wins I've got no doubt they'll fight next year, none at all! But then they have to plan the next step from there and after that and so on... I bet half the moaners on here wouldn't be able to plan out and execute a boxer's career if their life depended on it...

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            • #36
              I don't agree.

              Manny Pacquiao has a HUGE personality. he is a polemic character in his personal life, politics, boxing. He is a prick that has bashed entire groups of people like the gays/lesbians calling them worse than animals or something like that. He is a politician, a controversial one. but most of all in what matters here, he is IMHO THE MOST SPECTACULAR AND ENTERTAINING BOXER I HAVE EVER SEEN and this includes Muhammad Ali, which would come in a far second to me.

              Also there is Lomachenko, just watching him how he fights and his fighting antics is a spectacle in itself, even if outside the ring one hears almost nothing about him.

              There is Canelo as well, with his scandals like the one where he beat up a much smaller guy, boxer as well but like 5 divisions smaller in his hometown, got a lawsuit and one of his brothers took the blame for him, the scandal of what seems to be several gift decisions, his verbal very aggressive fights with both Chavez Jr. and GGG before the fights, his diva personality and his ****** declarations, not to mention the PED scandal.

              Also there's Tyson Fury, who even though sometimes he can be THE MOST BORING FIGHTER ON EARTH, rivaled only by Mayweather Jr., he has had a truckload of scandals, endless trash talk regarding his opponents, racist, misogynist, xenophobic talk, where he tries to portray this "macho" image, then in an interview with both him and WladimirK Klitschko he calls the latter "a very handsome guy" or something like that, proving he raelly has more than a screw loose...

              There's also cry-baby Khan, who just can't stop talking ******ity all the time trying to prove he doesn't have a pathetic chin putting down many other fighters, trying to put himself among the elite ones when he has never defeated any top P4P fighter, but it is so funny reading his ****** stuff. and as a fighter, he is really entertaining to watch die to his incredible hand speed and spectacular combinations.

              And what to say about Chavez Jr., his life itself is A SCANDAL, a total mess, his controversial fights, use of marihuana before fighting, driving and partying scandals both in the US and Mexico, being robbed of the cash he got for the Canelo fight, so many ****** and funny things, his fights with his father.

              There are a lot of boxing personalities it just happens to be that they are not American, maybe the boring ones he is talking about are the Americans. Now if he is talking about nutjobs capable of chewing off his opponent's ear, well then he is right, we will not find anyone as crazy as he was. so he definitely has a point there. But seriously, Manny, to me and I'm sure many people as well, was and is way more spectacular than Mike ever was. it just happens that when they are not Americans or heavyweights, it is more difficult to attract attention in America. Still I am pretty sure that Manny has generated way more PPV sales IN AMERICA ITSELF than Mike ever did. To do that, the fighter has to have a personality, specially if he is a foreign one, from Asia to boot.
              Last edited by sterilizer; 09-29-2018, 07:22 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 5000boxing View Post
                Best personalities in heavyweight are Fury, briggs, miller, and whyte.. 160 charlo, saunders, andrade 154, charlo, 147, thurman, a.b, spence.. when he's hammered drunk! Lol
                The Charlos are a different kind of robot. To me, dem guys are devoid of charisma, personality or even interview readiness! Fury? I see what you mean, I like the guy, but we don't got a steady diet of the guy to see if he's declining mentally or if he's just his crazy "batman" self! The guy IS very skillful! Whyte reminds me of the rude bwoy yaddys (jamaicans) I grew up with in the 80's, to me his "tuff talk" is cool but played out, because his flailing arms skills with the hyperextended knee stance is fun to watch but also dreadful to witness when he gets clocked!!..lol!

                Spence & Bud is what I think Mike is talking about: above average skills but reserved dudes that arent riding the hype wagon properly! Theyre just being themselves - so thats cool - aside from Spence and the vodka..lol. Saunders is nuts, but doesnt seem to like staying in the gym...but the nuttiness does add to his flair and his very good boxing skills... I for one, thinks he can beat Canelo on points - if he brings his A-game! Thats a fight I'd pay to see...

                AB is on a collision course with an upstate penitentiary, sadly, because it seems he can't seperate fiction from reality. Thurmans injury has him all of sudden acting like he's really a reserved "pentioner" ready with just opinions on boxing and AARP strategies...Andrade? yawn!....Porters now a skilled fireball that seems to be getting away from the wildness! He beat Danny fair & square.....Hey! 5000boxing, this brainstorm worked! I guess the game isnt in such a bad place after all! Its just the PETRIFIED GREEDY Hearn-Team, with Hearn Sr. at the helm that systematically AVOIDED Wilder thats STEALING from the game.....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 5000boxing View Post
                  Best personalities in heavyweight are Fury, briggs, miller, and whyte.. 160 charlo, saunders, andrade 154, charlo, 147, thurman, a.b, spence.. when he's hammered drunk! Lol
                  Miller?... I sure hope this dude isnt secretly eating Ring-Dings, Twinkies and burgers when he's training. He does have the large personality with the belly, but imo, he's there for the taking! - right up the middle with straight rangy punching - forget the hooks until he's battered & worn! His footwork is just "l'll slowly 'come forward' while I wing on you like Jeff Lacey with a more compact inside delivery"....Maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to be proven wrong bcuz this guy is reppin' my borough.... Personality wise? I think he can get Mikes attention....

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                  • #39
                    It is the promoters that has ruined boxing ****ing these fighters out of their money paying them slave wages and posturing behind the networks. When these fighters ask for what they are worth they get put on the shelf. I'm not talking about the big name fighters I'm talking about the young up and coming fighters. Plus people don't know the fighters because USA boxing has gone to **** and has not produced good Olympic fighters

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                    • #40
                      There's more consequences now, people are more sensitive, more groups, social media destroys "characters".

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