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  • Sid-Knee
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    #241
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    GGG wasn't almost stopped. GTFOH.

    And GGG has been dominant in every fight he's had before he was like 34-35 years of age when most fighters are being beaten into retirement. You're a delusional hater.
    It's easy to dominate against complete bums. Froch looked better than Gennady ever has when he fought Mack and ruined him in 3 rounds. And Froch was 36 then as well.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #242
      People really believe he can stop Froch? C'mon.

      He went 24 rounds his past 2 fights with a 5'8 fighter with 0 wins at 160.

      Went 12 with Jacobs who has been floored by Mora, and crushed by Pirog.

      Took 11 rounds to stop Martin Murray

      Took 8 rounds to stop Lemieux when Rubio had already done it in 7.

      Took him 7 to stop Adama.

      6 to stop Monroe.

      5 to stop a literal welterweight, Kell Brook etc.



      Everybody on that list has been able to hit him too, Curtis Stevens had the dude backing up from combos lol:

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #243
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        Wow you're such an idiot, I don't know where to start.

        You think a few seconds is all that allowed GGG to recover? Really? GGG wasn't even hurt. That's not even close to a real stoppage. All I care about is that that fight ended on a one punch ko by GGG.

        And Ouma basically lost every round and got stopped.
        Not dominant my a55.

        If you want a guide to measure GGG and Froch, look no further than the Direll fight that Froch lost to him (robbed) and see how easily beat Direll.

        YOU can try again. Hater.
        You judge Froch and Gennady by what happened in the Dirrell fights Am and Pro? That's ******. But Dirrell won one of those fights against Gennady making it 1-1 each.

        I suppose you judge who would win in the Pro's between Usyk and Porter considering Porter won in the AM's. Or Lewis losing to Biggs in the AM's, would he win in the pro's? Not even close.

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          #244
          Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
          I know , mate.

          I'm joking because i considered Froch an overrated fighter.
          Sorry, hard to tell in NSB.

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          • 'b'
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            #245
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Use real words and you'll have the actual answer.

            But if there was a such thing as a dumbist, it would mean that you're the leader of a dumb cult of dummies.

            Okay you can sop being gay now










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            • sunny31
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              #246
              Originally posted by j0zef
              couldn't disagree with you more. Golovkin is better than Froch from every stand point. I'm not sure why boxing fans can't think in periods of more than last 12 months. Just because he didn't land well on Canelo doesn't mean he's am average boxer or has accuracy issues. Dude was one of the most accurate punchers in the world for past 5 years. Froch would be a mess by the 3rd round. He's made of iron, but he won't come close to Golovkin often and will look like lacy against Calzaghe.

              Groves has been down a lot on his career. Stop comparing him to Golovkin. Maybe he has slightly better one punch ko power, but he's not close in every other department.

              Golovkin by easy decision or mid-late ko.
              First off if you are clever enough to quote me than you're clever enough to see that i was responding to a Groves comparison you dingbat.

              You can't measure Froch based on an eyeball test because he looks horrible doing everything, his technique is not polished, there have been fighters like him down the years. These types break the mould, and their intangibles must be factored in.

              You are also underestimating Froch's boxing ability, GGG fans are very quick to point to his Silver medal and amateur pedigree, but Froch himself was no slouch, he was a double ABA champion and got a Bronze at the world championships, a decorated amateur by anyone's standards, this is not JCC Jr we are talking about.

              But for sure he was more suited to the pro game, and as a pro he was a human truth machine, if you had weaknesses, he would find them and expose them. Opponents couldn't kid their way through a fight with Froch, he was too determined, too commited to do damage, and he had the chin and enough ability to get him to the target. Over the past 20 years, there haven't been that many, what I would call genuine 15 round fighters. Of the past generation Floyd certainly was, Manny too, Marquez prob was, and Froch defintely was, I always thought the 12 round distance is probably a detriment to him. Ward dominated their fight, but the way Froch was coming on in 11 and 12 is one of the moments I realised what I force of nature he was, Ward was a superbly conditioned fighter, we saw that in the Kova fights, Froch was a freak of nature in this respect.

              Fact is you had to be either super gifted or an all round fighter to even compete with him. He had an effective jab, good punch variety, elite chin/stamina, and very good power, but it's his intangibles which made him a HOFer, and we are taking about that determination, the heart, bravery, the stuff that can't be taught or learned.

              He obviously had short comings, he could be outboxed, he wasn't the fastest, feet or hands, defensively pretty poor. But here's the thing these short comings were only exposed at the highest level, and even then he won most of those fights. He went through an absolute gauntlet of competition from Jean Pascal on.

              Now I'll take people picking GGG over Froch, but what I wont take is the hogwash you just came out with. There is no way GGG has an easy time with Froch, no one did, and I certainly can't see a smaller guy having an easy time. GGG is NOT that kind of special. I'll retirate I see a competitive fight, a fight where I can see how both guys could win, but I like Froch to take over in the second half.

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              • BLASTER1
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                #247
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Gennady was hesitant against Stevens, Lemieux, and especially Jacobs. It wasn't just Canelo. Gennady never came close to knocking out Jacobs who had a glass chin but he's going to knock out someone with an iron jaw who is a higher weight class? Don't bet on fights no matter what you do. With predictions like this you'll lose all your money in double quick time.
                Ha thats why I don't bet.
                I'm still doing ok in the pik em though
                and I'm just a newbie��

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                • TheCell8
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Getting knocked down means you bow to them? Froch wasn't hurt and got up to knock Taylor out. That's bowing down, when you take their soul.

                  Taylor is also a better fighter than anyone G has beat. If all Froch had to do is deal with the bums G did, then he would have ended them in a few rounds like he did with Mack. But there is no substance to beating that level of fighter. Sorry, but Froch is the superior fighter and proved that by beating a whole host of superior fighters. G comes nowhere near to being close.
                  What you mentioned is irrelevant Taylor and Froch having better resumes than GGG, doesn't mean they're better lol.

                  Taylor got crushed by Kelly Pavlik and Arthur Abraham ffs. Froch lost to the most robotic fighter in boxing history: Mikkel Kessler.

                  The reality is that Golovkin is better than Taylor, and Golovkin is also better than Froch. Their resumes are irrelevant.

                  Yes, Golovkin would make Froch bow before him.

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                  • Mexican_Puppet
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Froch is a better and more proven fighter than most Mexican fighters throughout history. Froch is a legit great fighter and a future HOF. You're just a biased idiot who has nothing good to say about British fighters but cry when people tell the truth about your guys and call them haters. You're one of the biggest haters on the site.

                    Name all these Mexicans throughout history who had a better resume than Froch? List those victories as well.
                    You are on drugs, really.

                    Canelo is way better than Froch, Froch fought with a lot of A fighters, not super-elite fighters.

                    168 pounds always is a mediocre division.

                    Fu.ck.

                    Estrada and Nery actually are better fighters, and Viloria win is better than the best win of Froch, the same with Nery against Yamanaka that was an idol in Japan.

                    Easy.

                    Chávez.
                    Sánchez.
                    Morales.
                    Barrera.
                    Márquez.
                    López.
                    Olivares.
                    Saldivar.
                    Canto.
                    Román.
                    J.L Ramírez.
                    Zárate.
                    Castillo.
                    Margarito.
                    Canelo.
                    Nery.
                    Estrada.
                    Humberto González.
                    Mikey Garcia.
                    Babe Arizmendi.
                    José Luis Castillo.
                    Óscar de la Hoya.
                    Canizales.


                    And much more.

                    You are fu.cking crazy and ignorante as hell.

                    U.K boxing is sh.it against mexican boxing.

                    And Froch was a good fighter fighting in a mediocre division that only had an extraordinary fighter in André Ward.

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                    • Boxing Goat
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Laszlo
                      Based of what?

                      Your own bias?
                      Based on stats you banned idiot lol

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