GGG vs Carl Froch

[Boxing Goat]

ggg was clearly hurt from Bute's liver shots and Bute followed it up with head shots. The ref stopped Bute who was having his best moment of the bout of either fighter, allowed ggg 12 secs to recover, yet you don't think that affected the outcome?

The sole reason ggg even won gold was because the real 160 champion, Ward, was voluntarily fighting at LHW.



Ouma did not lose every round, the judges had it
87-84, 86-85, 86-85

Ouma was arguably winning the fight until ggg finally got to him late. Prime Kassim Ouma would've pulled off that W.




ggg barely beat Dirrel by 5pts in the amateurs lol, Dirrel is a much better pro just like ggg was a much better amateur.
Froch is also 10x the pro than he was as an amateur losing to Manfredo.

Dirrel dominated 160 champion Arthur Abraham, arguably beat Froch too. WTF has ggg done to compare to those accomplishments? Go life and death with Ouma, Jacobs, and lose to a guy with 0 wins at 160?

Lol! What a fkn ****** you are. Crawl out of your mental hole and we'll talk reasonably.

[Boxing Goat]

Okay you can sop being gay now

No that's you, mr. dumbest

[Sid-Knee]

You are on drugs, really.

Canelo is way better than Froch, Froch fought with a lot of A fighters, not super-elite fighters.

168 pounds always is a mediocre division.

Fu.ck.

Estrada and Nery actually are better fighters, and Viloria win is better than the best win of Froch, the same with Nery against Yamanaka that was an idol in Japan.

Easy.

Chávez.
Sánchez.
Morales.
Barrera.
Márquez.
López.
Olivares.
Saldivar.
Canto.
Román.
J.L Ramírez.
Zárate.
Castillo.
Margarito.
Canelo.
Nery.
Estrada.
Humberto González.
Mikey Garcia.
Babe Arizmendi.
José Luis Castillo.
Óscar de la Hoya.
Canizales.


And much more.

You are fu.cking crazy and ignorante as hell.

U.K boxing is sh.it against mexican boxing.

And Froch was a good fighter fighting in a mediocre division that only had an extraordinary fighter in André Ward.

Hahahahahaha I'm the one on drugs?? After you just wrote all this garbage?

Who has Canelo fought and beaten? He got dominated by Floyd, lost to Lara but got a gift, then got two gifts against Gennady. Anybody can lose. Anybody can lose and get corrupt decisions like Canelo has his whole career. The cheating surrounding this cheat is disgraceful. Ands that's before we get to the failed drug tests.

The only fighters he's beaten fair and square are Trout and a much smaller and well past prime Miguel Cotto. So his resume is absolutely crap. It doesn't come anywhere near close to competing with Froch. You're just a deluded fan boy who horribly overrates basic fighters and casts them off as some kind of greats. It's hilarious really.

Lopez fought a long stream of bums. One of the worst resumes you'll ever see. Who did he beat that was any good? When he did eventually fight a decent fighter, he got dropped in an even fight that ended in a draw. Get out of here.

J L Ramirez?? He beat Edwards in his very last fight and got a decision against Whittiker. Apart from that, he lost to pretty much any good fighter he fought. So GTFOH.

Ruben Olivares?? Tell me who he beat?

Margarito?? MR plaster himself? That disgusting cheat? His resume is Cotto, Cintron, Lewis and Clottey. That's it. The fact you think we should be discussing this shameful cheat only shows how low you're willing to go.

Morales I agree with, but he's another Mexican drug cheat.

Miguel Canto?? Tell me who he beat? Break it down the good fighters he has wins over? Tell me why his opponents are good?

Which Roman are we talking about? Be specific.

Carlos Zarate?? Hahahahaha That guy has more bums on his resume than beg in New York city. When he did step up, he lost. Tell me which complete tomato can he beat that you think was any good?

Castillo has Johnston, Corrales, Casamayor and Diaz. That's it. And he had to do the Mexican special against Corrales by coming in well over weight. Not on the level of Froch.

Nery? The drug and weight cheat?? Hahahahahahahahahaha. The guy who has only beaten a finished Yamanaka? And that doesn't count because he cheated with drugs and the weight. Don't mention this shameful Mexican cheat again.

Who the **** has Estrada beaten? He loses when ever he steps up. GTFOH. He's beaten no one.

Tell me who Humberto Gonzales beat? Because you're just giving me Mexicans who have a lot of world title fights but beat mostly scrubs. You don't know the guys he beat so stop pretending.

Mikey Garcia? The American Garcia? The Garcia who's biggest win is against that bum Broner? Hahahahahaha. His resume is littered with nobodies. Tell me when he even comes close to achieving half of what Froch did.

De LA Hoya is American as well. These fighters are not Mexican.

Orlando Canizales is also American. Mexicans, ******. I said Mexicans.

Froch is better and more proven than most of these. And this was the best you could come up with in history? Shameful. You've got fighters who aren't even Mexican, drug and weight cheats, And fighters who beat nothing but bums. Not forgetting that phony Canelo Who is a drug cheat and has the most corruption surrounding him in world boxing.

So as I say, Froch is better than most Mexicans in history. That's a fact regardless of your delusion. You're a clown, just like the dirty cheats that come out of your country all the time.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Hahahahahaha I'm the one on drugs?? After you just wrote all this garbage?

Who has Canelo fought and beaten? He got dominated by Floyd, lost to Lara but got a gift, then got two gifts against Gennady. Anybody can lose. Anybody can lose and get corrupt decisions like Canelo has his whole career. The cheating surrounding this cheat is disgraceful. Ands that's before we get to the failed drug tests.

The only fighters he's beaten fair and square are Trout and a much smaller and well past prime Miguel Cotto. So his resume is absolutely crap. It doesn't come anywhere near close to competing with Froch. You're just a deluded fan boy who horribly overrates basic fighters and casts them off as some kind of greats. It's hilarious really.

Lopez fought a long stream of bums. One of the worst resumes you'll ever see. Who did he beat that was any good? When he did eventually fight a decent fighter, he got dropped in an even fight that ended in a draw. Get out of here.

J L Ramirez?? He beat Edwards in his very last fight and got a decision against Whittiker. Apart from that, he lost to pretty much any good fighter he fought. So GTFOH.

Ruben Olivares?? Tell me who he beat?

Margarito?? MR plaster himself? That disgusting cheat? His resume is Cotto, Cintron, Lewis and Clottey. That's it. The fact you think we should be discussing this shameful cheat only shows how low you're willing to go.

Morales I agree with, but he's another Mexican drug cheat.

Miguel Canto?? Tell me who he beat? Break it down the good fighters he has wins over? Tell me why his opponents are good?

Which Roman are we talking about? Be specific.

Carlos Zarate?? Hahahahaha That guy has more bums on his resume than beg in New York city. When he did step up, he lost. Tell me which complete tomato can he beat that you think was any good?

Castillo has Johnston, Corrales, Casamayor and Diaz. That's it. And he had to do the Mexican special against Corrales by coming in well over weight. Not on the level of Froch.

Nery? The drug and weight cheat?? Hahahahahahahahahaha. The guy who has only beaten a finished Yamanaka? And that doesn't count because he cheated with drugs and the weight. Don't mention this shameful Mexican cheat again.

Who the **** has Estrada beaten? He loses when ever he steps up. GTFOH. He's beaten no one.

Tell me who Humberto Gonzales beat? Because you're just giving me Mexicans who have a lot of world title fights but beat mostly scrubs. You don't know the guys he beat so stop pretending.

Mikey Garcia? The American Garcia? The Garcia who's biggest win is against that bum Broner? Hahahahahaha. His resume is littered with nobodies. Tell me when he even comes close to achieving half of what Froch did.

De LA Hoya is American as well. These fighters are not Mexican.

Orlando Canizales is also American. Mexicans, ******. I said Mexicans.

Froch is better and more proven than most of these. And this was the best you could come up with in history? Shameful. You've got fighters who aren't even Mexican, drug and weight cheats, And fighters who beat nothing but bums. Not forgetting that phony Canelo Who is a drug cheat and has the most corruption surrounding him in world boxing.

So as I say, Froch is better than most Mexicans in history. That's a fact regardless of your delusion. You're a clown, just like the dirty cheats that come out of your country all the time.

I did not read your sh.it.

You are clearly a mexican hater.

Don't worry.

Nobody in the world says your sh.it and nobody in the world says that Froch is a Legendary fighter , except you lol.

I guess you are the mom of Froch.

And man, really you don't know sh.it about boxing

Olivares was one of the best fighters of his era and he was shot and was schooling Alexis Arguello

Being very smallers than Alexis.

Ward ridiculized Froch in his own weight.

[Mister Wolf]

Froch by stoppage. The Froch that fought Ward would back down and bully GGG.

[Sid-Knee]

I did not read your sh.it.

You are clearly a mexican hater.

Don't worry.

Nobody in the world says your sh.it and nobody in the world says that Froch is a Legendary fighter , except you lol.

I guess you are the mom of Froch.

And man, really you don't know sh.it about boxing

Olivares was one of the best fighters of his era and he was shot and was schooling Alexis Arguello

Being very smallers than Alexis.

Ward ridiculized Froch in his own weight.

You did read it. It's due to you not being able to answer any questions that you refused. You don't know who those fighters beat, you just claim they're great because they had a lot of world title fights against scrubs. Johnny Nelson had 15 world title fights as well. But guess what? They were against scrubs. The only good fighter he beat was the guy he took the title off in Carl Thompson. A couple of decent ones in Sellers and the like, but mostly garbage. But you don't see anyone calling him a great fighter do you?

I'm not a Mexican hater you clown. I don't smear great fighters from Mexico like an ignorant nationalist like you do with Brit fighters. You've got nothing good to say about any of them. You even think nobody cheats who haven't done a god damn thing in the sport is greater than a ATG Supermiddleweight who is clearly a legit HOF. You even said the division was weak even though it was stacked from top to bottom. So don't give me this hater nonsense. You're a biased clown who's there to be laughed at. Anything Mexican, even if it's crap, is better than a great fighter from Britain according to you. That's biased and being a hater.

You now know what the world says do you? anyone who knows boxing knows many great fighters came from Britain throughout history. Only clowns who are ignorant and don't know anything about the sport claim otherwise.

Most consider Froch a HOF fighter, not just me. Do a thread and find out for yourself to see what a plank you really are. Flag waving imbecile.

Olivarez wasn't schooling Arguello either. It was a close fight. But you don't prove to be great because you put up a good fight against a great fighter. Is Douglas great because he dominated and knocked out Tyson? No. And he did much more in his fight than Olivarez did against Arguello. Is McCullough a great fighter because he gave Morales a tough fight? Is Maidana great because he gave Mayweather a tough fight? He did much better than Canelo came close to doing. Is he therefore greater than Canelo? Exactly!

Don't mention your drug cheating, weight cheating, plaster cheating nobodies with Carl Froch again.

[Mexican_Puppet]

You did read it. It's due to you not being able to answer any questions that you refused. You don't know who those fighters beat, you just claim they're great because they had a lot of world title fights against scrubs. Johnny Nelson had 15 world title fights as well. But guess what? They were against scrubs. The only good fighter he beat was the guy he took the title off in Carl Thompson. A couple of decent ones in Sellers and the like, but mostly garbage. But you don't see anyone calling him a great fighter do you?

I'm not a Mexican hater you clown. I don't smear great fighters from Mexico like an ignorant nationalist like you do with Brit fighters. You've got nothing good to say about any of them. You even think nobody cheats who haven't done a god damn thing in the sport is greater than a ATG Supermiddleweight who is clearly a legit HOF. You even said the division was weak even though it was stacked from top to bottom. So don't give me this hater nonsense. You're a biased clown who's there to be laughed at. Anything Mexican, even if it's crap, is better than a great fighter from Britain according to you. That's biased and being a hater.

You now know what the world says do you? anyone who knows boxing knows many great fighters came from Britain throughout history. Only clowns who are ignorant and don't know anything about the sport claim otherwise.

Most consider Froch a HOF fighter, not just me. Do a thread and find out for yourself to see what a plank you really are. Flag waving imbecile.

Olivarez wasn't schooling Arguello either. It was a close fight. But you don't prove to be great because you put up a good fight against a great fighter. Is Douglas great because he dominated and knocked out Tyson? No. And he did much more in his fight than Olivarez did against Arguello. Is McCullough a great fighter because he gave Morales a tough fight? Is Maidana great because he gave Mayweather a tough fight? He did much better than Canelo came close to doing. Is he therefore greater than Canelo? Exactly!

Don't mention your drug cheating, weight cheating, plaster cheating nobodies with Carl Froch again.

I did not read your sh.it

You are saying crazy things.

Olivares was the king of the weight by some years and nope, he was winning clearly the fight against Arguello


And was champ in 118vpounds and then in 126.

Thats like Froch being champ in 175.

Is considered one of the best bantamweight of the history and a great máster of boxing.

You can say your sh.it but nobody in the world thinks like you

Froch was ridiculized by Ward in his own división

Learn about boxing.

[Sid-Knee]

I did not read your sh.it

You are saying crazy things.

Olivares was the king of the weight by some years and nope, he was winning clearly the fight against Arguello


And was champ in 118vpounds and then in 126.

Thats like Froch being champ in 175.

Is considered one of the best bantamweight of the history and a great máster of boxing.

You can say your sh.it but nobody in the world thinks like you

Froch was ridiculized by Ward in his own división

Learn about boxing.

List all the good fighters Olivarez beat? Tell me what was so good about them?

Your ability to score a fight without bias is impossible. Olivarez wasn't clearly winning the fight against Arguello at all.

Froch didn't need to go to 175 when there were so many quality fights for him at 168. He became a great fighter at just the one weight. If you can make weight and have quality fights there, not a single reason exists for moving up.

Olivarez was the Bantamweight champ for a year before getting knocked out by a scrub in Castillo. He then got his title back from that scrub 6 months later. He then loses the title a year later to Herrera. So he wasn't champ for years at all. The two best fighters Olivarez beat are Chacon and Rose. The rest are scrubs.

Olivarez did pick up a title at Feather... A vacant title against a scrub. Don't even dare claim that is worthy of discussion.

Is that what Froch should have done? Fought at Lightheavy for a vacant title against a scrub? And what would that have proven exactly?

Bantamweight must be really **** if Olivarez is considered one of the best in history for beating bums and getting beat by bums. Really ****.

You're clearly the one who needs to learn about boxing. You're taking average fighters who did nothing worth talking about and casting them off as some kind of ATG when that couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

Tell me these fighters Olivarez beat to become this "ATG"? Don't duck this question like you did before.

[Mexican_Puppet]

List all the good fighters Olivarez beat? Tell me what was so good about them?

Your ability to score a fight without bias is impossible. Olivarez wasn't clearly winning the fight against Arguello at all.

Froch didn't need to go to 175 when there were so many quality fights for him at 168. He became a great fighter at just the one weight. If you can make weight and have quality fights there, not a single reason exists for moving up.

Olivarez was the Bantamweight champ for a year before getting knocked out by a scrub in Castillo. He then got his title back from that scrub 6 months later. He then loses the title a year later to Herrera. So he wasn't champ for years at all. The two best fighters Olivarez beat are Chacon and Rose. The rest are scrubs.

Olivarez did pick up a title at Feather... A vacant title against a scrub. Don't even dare claim that is worthy of discussion.

Is that what Froch should have done? Fought at Lightheavy for a vacant title against a scrub? And what would that have proven exactly?

Bantamweight must be really **** if Olivarez is considered one of the best in history for beating bums and getting beat by bums. Really ****.

You're clearly the one who needs to learn about boxing. You're taking average fighters who did nothing worth talking about and casting them off as some kind of ATG when that couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

Tell me these fighters Olivarez beat to become this "ATG"? Don't duck this question like you did before.

I'm not reading your sh.it, son.

You are crazy and a clown.

Your sh.it.means nothing.

In your world Froch is a legend but really nobody cares about him in the boxing world.

Olivares it's in all the list of the best 50-60 fighters in the history of the SPORT.

You are a clown, nothing more.

[Sid-Knee]

I'm not reading your sh.it, son.

You are crazy and a clown.

Your sh.it.means nothing.

In your world Froch is a legend but really nobody cares about him in the boxing world.

Olivares it's in all the list of the best 50-60 fighters in the history of the SPORT.

You are a clown, nothing more.

Top 50-60 fighter in history? Hahahahahahahahahaha

I'll ask you one last time. Give me the names that Olivarez beat to be this so called great?

You can't answer can you? Because you know his resume is garbage. He beat bums of no significance. Trying to justify his **** resume will only result in you making a bigger fool of yourself than you already do.

So no, it's you who is the clown because you're too coward to answer the question.