Where are the apologies?

[Boxing Goat]

Wilder does a million+ on linear Showtime, which doesn't count all the people watching on Showtime's app and Showtime Anytime.

Trolls like you really look more pathetic than ever. I kept explaining that HBO was cheating the system by refusing to air fights live on their app or HBO GO, not putting fights on demand until Tuesday, etc etc.

I kept explaining that SHO's public number was skewed by Showtime allowing live streaming, quick VOD, etc etc.

And here we are. Showtime doubles down on boxing while HBO throws in the towel.

So who do you think was right all along about the numbers? Me? Or the trolls like you? Because if I was wrong, HBO boxing would still exist and SHO wouldn't be increasing their budget.

I never cared one way or the other as long as boxing still has great fights. I'm a boxing fan, not a newtwork fan you FMJ c@ksucker. Yeah b@tch we know what you're about. Ha ha ha

And you call me a fkn troll. You got some nerve.

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Wilder does a million+ on linear Showtime, which doesn't count all the people watching on Showtime's app and Showtime Anytime.

Trolls like you really look more pathetic than ever. I kept explaining that HBO was cheating the system by refusing to air fights live on their app or HBO GO, not putting fights on demand until Tuesday, etc etc.

I kept explaining that SHO's public number was skewed by Showtime allowing live streaming, quick VOD, etc etc.

And here we are. Showtime doubles down on boxing while HBO throws in the towel.

So who do you think was right all along about the numbers? Me? Or the trolls like you? Because if I was wrong, HBO boxing would still exist and SHO wouldn't be increasing their budget.

I never cared one way or the other as long as boxing still has great fights. I'm a boxing fan, not a newtwork fan you FMJ c@ksucker. Yeah b@tch we know what you're about. Ha ha ha

And you call me a fkn troll. You got some nerve.

[BLASTER1]

Notice that you didn't deny it. You got more aggressive because you know I'm right and it bothers you that I was able to spot it so easily. But you didn't deny it.

My advice take your L like a good little bish that you are.

[yammy25]

...and wait a minute, your account was made in 2017 but you are talking about what people said on here when PBC first launched. whos alt are you?

Oh don't get me started on this one mate.

He claimed to another user his account "original zero" had been active "many years". It was made in Jan 2016.

Then when I called him out on it he ignored me for days until he couldn't anymore.. and changed his story to him meaning his account before that which was his actual name and that I should only bet money with him that it exists because of his identity being compromised because he's such a big playa.

But let's not forget there's 3 people on this account with exactly the same attitude and posting style.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Deciding to not match Floyd's Showtime offer and then banning Haymon fighters was the beginning of the end for HBO. Oscar firing Schaefer and returning to HBO with Canelo gave them a temporary reprieve. With Floyd leaving they missed out on 5,425,000 PPV buys and had to split the 4,600,000 PPV buys with him and Manny. HBO didn't hit another 1,000,000 PPV until Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. I think it was 2016 when HBO combined PPV's didn't top Mayweather vs. Cotto PPV. They got the boxing media to convince the fans that Chocolatito was the #1 P4P fighter but most of the public didn't buy it and he was never able to cross over. By the time Top Rank left the writing was already on the wall. They put Crawford vs. Postol on PPV ffs.

[N/A]

Ok Dr Frued you so easily deduced my life from a cpl of sentences.
How bout I think your a gay no hoper loser who needs vindication on a boxing forum because you assume that you were correct.
Stop being so shallow it makes you look like an idiot.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it..

Still didn't deny it. And you're getting angrier and angrier, further proving I was right about you being upset about your personal life.

I'm not gay, but it shows what a low class person you are that you think that's an insult.

[EdWins]

PBC didn't kill HBO tho they are leaving boxing because it doesn't draw anymore. Its been a long time coming long before PBC even came around.

[jmrf4435]

Everybody said I was crazy for insisting PBC would land a big deal with FOX and kill HBO boxing. Admittedly, I didn't think HBO boxing would die in 2018, figured it might take a year or two longer than that. But nonetheless, when PBC launched, most of you here insisted it would flop and that there was no way it would put HBO boxing out of business.

Yet here we are.

I was called every name in the book. So surely there are at least a few honorable gentlemen here willing to apologize?

PBC on fox has absolutely nothing to do with HBO boxing. HBO is simply interested in more profitable things, **** tv series. Boxing is a racket..

[N/A]

PBC on fox has absolutely nothing to do with HBO boxing. HBO is simply interested in more profitable things

I don't think you understand how money works.

FOX pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, SHO pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, ESPN getting back into boxing, DAZN pouring money into boxing, all drove up the price of talent while driving down the need to subscribe to HBO to see top level boxing.

So to say FOX has nothing to do with HBO boxing is to say that what fights cost has nothing to do with HBO's decision. Which is ridiculous because your entire point was that HBO is shifting to more profitable things. Things that are more profitable, in part, because networks like FOX have driven up the costs of being in boxing.

HBO didn't want to compete in the arms race, so they quit.

When Maurice Hooker vs. Alex Saucedo goes for $1.625 million at purse bid, and HBO can't even afford to pay GGG $1 million, it's time to close up shop.

[jmrf4435]

I don't think you understand how money works.

FOX pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, SHO pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, ESPN getting back into boxing, DAZN pouring money into boxing, all drove up the price of talent while driving down the need to subscribe to HBO to see top level boxing.

So to say FOX has nothing to do with HBO boxing is to say that what fights cost has nothing to do with HBO's decision. Which is ridiculous because your entire point was that HBO is shifting to more profitable things. Things that are more profitable, in part, because networks like FOX have driven up the costs of being in boxing.

HBO didn't want to compete in the arms race, so they quit.

When Maurice Hooker vs. Alex Saucedo goes for $1.625 million at purse bid, and HBO can't even afford to pay GGG $1 million, it's time to close up shop.

Competing in the arms race would not have made any financial sense for HBO. Boxing will rotate between networks for the rest of it's existence. It's a niche fad type sport, only profitable in waves.

I think boxing moving to regular network cable hurt both showtime and HBO. I think it hurt ppv as well