Comments Thread For: Wilder's Team Have 'No Desire' For New Meeting on Joshua Deal

[doom_specialist]

Now where did you get the "They have the $50 million." Was that a direct quote from Hearn, or was it in a report? Either way, I get what you're saying, but I'm still going to post reports! Of course Mayweather knew that $40 million wasn't going to happen, just like Wilder knew that 50/50 wasn't going to happen! However, when someone you detest says "Well, we need an outdoor stadium, Manny is scared of needles, etc." or "How can we know that the $50 million is real," you get in your feelings and say dumb ish!

I was paraphrasing there lol, but here you go:

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-hearn-stand-firm-wilder-fight-uk--128489

Hearn fully corroborating the offer, and then basically saying that they still didn't want it.

Here's another that told me that they just didn't want it, for whatever reason. Start it at about 1:19:

https://********/RTwrUm-rr6g

All of a sudden he's not selling his soul for $50M, when he originally would have signed immediately. Just a bunch of games being played from what I can see.

[Bronx2245]

you do know Parker made less than 7 million don't you ? Wilder was offered 15...but hey I can't say what wilder is happy with go take it
if he feels he needs a split then that's his choice and he is the one fighting but he can't say Joshua is ducking because the fight is there waiting for him...many a fighter has taken much less than that and gone on to win and take control after that.
$15 million is far from peanuts and when you consider he has not earned more than 2.4million a fight.
Your banking on wilder vs fury as a big blockbuster ..your going to be let down with that

“How low can you think of a person to degrade a man of my stature and what I’ve done for this sport," asked Wilder during an interview in his hotel in Belfast after the Fury confrontation and photo op. "No matter what you think of me, $15 million and no percentage? When you gave a guy lower than me that has done nothing for the sport a percentage but you want to give the baddest man on the planet no percentage? It don’t get no clearer than that they don’t want the fight.”

Wilder makes reference to the offer he received from Joshua and his camp. A flat $15 million would be more than Wilder has made in any previous fight, but by cutting him out of a percentage of the gate and/or pay-per-view sales, he stood to have his take dwarfed by Joshua's bottom line. Essentially, the contract could be categorized as a low-ball offer meant to deter the fight, but issued in an effort to save face.

There is no question, Joshua is the larger global draw, but Wilder stood firm on his worth and it appears things have paid off for him. Wilder would appear to have emerged from the situation with more public respect as influential people in the fight community have painted Joshua as a protected and cautious champion looking to avoid an obvious rival...

Wilder left the door open for a future clash with Joshua, perhaps in the early part of 2019. That obviously requires Joshua to beat Alexander Povetkin on September 22 and for Wilder to get past Fury. By not taking Joshua's offer, and with Fury restoring his fitness and drawing ability, Wilder is in a position to earn a sizable payday while only improving his bargaining power for a future clash with Joshua.

There hasn't been a punch thrown in regards to this situation, but so far Wilder is in the early lead.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianma.../#440c21225ce4

The narrative has changed! Joshua might want to listen to Lennox Lewis!

[doom_specialist]

yeah but wilder and Joshua are not pacauiso & mayweather s
There is no comparison so why even mention it , Joshua is unknown in the states and wilder is relatively unknown.
There not a proven market in the us and it's simply a gamble to over pay.
As I said before klitchcko and Joshua both made 21 million dollars each for the Wembley fight.
Klitchcko got all the revenue from Germany's PPV market.
Joshua earnt 21 million and going by that wilder would have got 15 million.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
With wilder they would have to take a gamble on PPV in the states and it would have been a daytime viewing as well so it was a risk

Their stature doesn't matter. Mayweather gave a BS deal, and Hearn did too. If an event isn't going to be an event if a guy is missing, then make sure that guy shows up. Pacquiao wasn't showing up for a flat fee, and neither will Wilder (at least not anymore).

Hearn is on record saying that the fight wouldn't sell in total what Joshua was being offered, so I'm not seeing your point about Joshua being unknown here. If you're getting paid $50M with back end, you just do it. But of course, he wants to get paid less to fight at home. Suuuuuuure lol

[Bronx2245]

I was paraphrasing there lol, but here you go:

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-h...ght-uk--128489

Hearn fully corroborating the offer, and then basically saying that they still didn't want it.

Here's another that told me that they just didn't want it, for whatever reason. Start it at about 1:19:

https://********/RTwrUm-rr6g

All of a sudden he's not selling his soul for $50M, when he originally would have signed immediately. Just a bunch of games being played from what I can see.

Oh trust me, I've seen the story, but that's the reporter's take, and not a direct quote from Hearn stating the offer was real! However, I get it! I know the offer was real! It has to be a historic refusal too! I wish they could go back and list the HW fighters who have turned down a $50 million dollar offer!

[Real King Kong]

There's never a peep about wilder wanting a rematch clause from those blaming Hearn for negotiations breaking down.😂

[Scipio2009]

... 20 pages though?

[aboutfkntime]

No, you only have business meetings after you've agreed upon everything you would be discussing at that meeting.

Or something like that.

he accepted $15mil, but Hearn and Joshua shat the bed

he obviously wants a better deal in order to come to the table..... because Team Bullshht were not even willing to fight him for the last shlt deal they offered

what don't you understand about that, short-bus ?

[Scipio2009]

The only thing that kind of perturbs me about the article was,



by Finkel. Literally have no idea what that means it's not even a roundabout answer. "Oh if you don't give me the BIG money I'm not responding".

Split the pie fairly, let's maximize the event together, you control things on your side of the Atlantic, we control things on our side of the Atlantic, and it's either both champions have the rematch clause or neither champion has the rematch clause (with a handshake to talk toward a deal if a rematch makes sense).

A 60/40 Joshua split, Sky Sports in the UK, Showtime/CBS in the US, with a handshake to talk a rematch if one would make sense, would've sealed the deal for the fight this year, and everyone knows it.

Wilder's likely not getting 50%, but take the deal that it was supposed to be from the start, and bump Wilder's take over 40%, and you'd have your deal for April.

Anything else isn't worth talking about

[aboutfkntime]

Split the pie fairly, let's maximize the event together, you control things on your side of the Atlantic, we control things on our side of the Atlantic, and it's either both champions have the rematch clause or neither champion has the rematch clause (with a handshake to talk toward a deal if a rematch makes sense).

A 60/40 Joshua split, Sky Sports in the UK, Showtime/CBS in the US, with a handshake to talk a rematch if one would make sense, would've sealed the deal for the fight this year, and everyone knows it.

Wilder's likely not getting 50%, but take the deal that it was supposed to be from the start, and bump Wilder's take over 40%, and you'd have your deal for April.

Anything else isn't worth talking about

you're right, but 35% would get it done

THAT is the split that Finkel referred to, or at least in that ballpark

why won't they even offer Wilder 35% ?

I know why lol..... and so do all of the excuse-making shltters

[Scipio2009]

Finkel is basically saying.. I'm not going to meet... Talk or negotiate at all until i have an offer I am satisfied with, and we all know that offer will be a massive overpayment.

He's basically saying... I'm not gonna talk til I'm offered 50-50 !! That's no way to make this fight when you absolutely have no right to a half split .

Delusional. Just meet and iron out a fair percentage split contingent on wilder winning in December !

When has Eddie Hearn ever offered a percentage here? He's still talking the flat fee nonsense.