How did Fury suddenly become champion?

[Tom Cruise]

Pretty sure Fury said he retired and nobody classed Canelo lineal when he got suspended. No major site views Fury as lineal, because he isn't.

Nobody classed Canelo as Lineal when he beat Cotto, who beat Martinez, who beat Pavlik, who beat Taylor, who beat Hopkins?

He was the definition of lineal. He was the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man. What he wasn’t was the proper champ. That was GGG. In the old days with one title somebody would have been stripped for not fighting GGG. Lineal champs don’t get stripped.

Fury did say he wouldn’t box again you are correct. How seriously you take that statement decides whether you believe he is lineal or not. I didn’t believe it for one second

[ShoulderRoll]

No major site views Fury as lineal, because he isn't.

I don't mean to upset you but...



BoxingScene Championship Stats and Records

by Cliff Rold

Records acquired from BoxRec.com

Heavyweight (201 lbs.-Unlimited)

Lineal Champion: Tyson Fury (27-0, 17 KO); won 11/28/2015, UD12 W. Klitschko

Lineage Descends From: Wladimir Klitschko RTD9 Ruslan Chagaev 06/20/2009


https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/v...boxing-ratings

[Robbie Barrett]

Nobody classed Canelo as Lineal when he beat Cotto, who beat Martinez, who beat Pavlik, who beat Taylor, who beat Hopkins?

He was the definition of lineal. He was the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man. What he wasn’t was the proper champ. That was GGG. In the old days with one title somebody would have been stripped for not fighting GGG. Lineal champs don’t get stripped.

Fury did say he wouldn’t box again you are correct. How seriously you take that statement decides whether you believe he is lineal or not. I didn’t believe it for one second

When he got suspended most stripped him of lineal. Just as the did with Fury.

[Robbie Barrett]

I don't mean to upset you but...



BoxingScene Championship Stats and Records

by Cliff Rold

Records acquired from BoxRec.com

Heavyweight (201 lbs.-Unlimited)

Lineal Champion: Tyson Fury (27-0, 17 KO); won 11/28/2015, UD12 W. Klitschko

Lineage Descends From: Wladimir Klitschko RTD9 Ruslan Chagaev 06/20/2009


https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/v...boxing-ratings

Yay you found someone called cliff rold that thinks he's lineal. Who follows boxingscenes ratings? I've been on this site years and nobody cares about them.


You left out this bit though.

"Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB): Declared open 10/18/2016 based on announced retirement of Tyson Fury

Ring: Vacant; vacated 02/01/2018 based on inactivity of Tyson Fury"

These are sites voted on by multiple writers/experts. They don't have him lineal. You can have Cliff Rold though.

[The plunger man]

He could, yes.

He was never beaten in the ring.

lineal means jack **** when your way past your prime and you have not beaten anybody of note in the last 3 years.
Hell go dig up rocky marciano and stick some gloves on him he is still lineal god damn you lol.
Lineal is tyson only claim to fame in the divsion now because thats all he can bargain with.
Lineal means nothing at the end of the day.
Belts and recognition mean much more.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yay you found someone called cliff rold that thinks he's lineal. Who follows boxingscenes ratings? I've been on this site years and nobody cares about them.


You left out this bit though.

"Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB): Declared open 10/18/2016 based on announced retirement of Tyson Fury

Ring: Vacant; vacated 02/01/2018 based on inactivity of Tyson Fury"

These are sites voted on by multiple writers/experts. They don't have him lineal. You can have Cliff Rold though.

You seriously don't know who Cliff Rold is?

[VG_Addict]

It's simple. Fury is the lineal champion. He's the man who beat the man. He beat Wlad, who beat Chagaev to form a new lineage after Lewis retired. Lewis beat Rahman, who beat Lewis, who beat Briggs, who beat Foreman, who beat Moorer, who beat Holyfield and so on, all the way back to John L. Sullivan.

Since Fury hasn't lost in the ring yet, he's still the lineal champion.

[LoadedWraps]

Mm no actually if you did your research you'd understand that I was a Fury supporter way before you even knew who AJ was.

I just find it hilarious how once again Wilder's fangirls will switch according to agenda.

- When Fury had came off beating Wlad, he was crap.
- When Wilder went to Russia to fight Povetkin - He took on the most dangerous heavyweight
- When Ortiz decisioned Malik Scott, he was crap.

Yet... when things spun around the EXACT opposite happened. Fury is now the real champion, who's very hard to beat. Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world and Povetkin is no good.

haha. you couldn't make this stuff up.

Was being the key word.

Now you slob on AJs knob.

Its a shame too because you could be there to celebrate with the rest of the Fury Faithful December 1st but you betrayed the furious one a while ago.

[Robbie Barrett]

You seriously don't know who Cliff Rold is?

Apart from being a boxingscene writer, no. Please list his notable achievements.

[Robbie Barrett]

It's simple. Fury is the lineal champion. He's the man who beat the man. He beat Wlad, who beat Chagaev to form a new lineage after Lewis retired. Lewis beat Rahman, who beat Lewis, who beat Briggs, who beat Foreman, who beat Moorer, who beat Holyfield and so on, all the way back to John L. Sullivan.

Since Fury hasn't lost in the ring yet, he's still the lineal champion.

Fury retired.
Fury got suspended for PEDs.

Both these things should mean he was stripped and most believe he is because of this.