Comments Thread For: Joshua's Promoter: The Sole Focus, 100%, is Wilder Fight in April

[Scipio2009]

so where is the 50 million coming from.
Stop with this ****** talk , there was no contract , no venue , no date.
Zilch just an email so stop trying to make it sound like there is.
I live in reality you don't and what i see is wilder wanting more than he is worth.
But no probs let wilder fight fury and we will see how good it sells.
I have a feeling your going to be very disapointed when you see how poorly this fight does at the box office.
Fury is very mediocre over here because he is not entertainment and wilder is not a ppv star.
Joshua is the main draw of the divsion bar none

MGM Resorts likely had a standing offer to host the event, Showtime/CBS has done enough major events to have a conservative guess at what the event could draw, and there are enough data points in hand to project what Wilder-Joshua could do in the UK at 2am.

Regardless of how the assessment was done, the camp sat down, ran through the numbers, and were confident enough to lay out $60m on the fight, upfront.

[Pennsauken1]

Hahaha! I don't know if Wilder looks like a drug dealer but AJ certainly looks like someone addicted to 'estrogen blockers'.

Lolllllllllllllllllll. Where’s the Plunger at? Fooking Nit Wit!!!!

[Scipio2009]

So your saying tesla makes as much turnover each year as ford do ?
Wilder is not a tesla car more like a trabant ffs

I'm saying that investors in Tesla, and investors generally, have seen what Elon Musk has done so far, see what the plans are for the midterm, have weighed the operational execution risk, have projected out the future revenues for Tesla, before then discounting those future revenues to now, and they've concluded that Tesla and Ford should be comparable.

Deontay Wilder is set to make the 8th defense of his world title against Tyson Fury, and he's been slowly catching fire over the last two years or so. He's an American heavyweight champion, who flattens anyone put in front of him, almost always in dramatic fashion.

Even if the Joshua fight doesn't happen, a stellar performance on PPV against Tyson Fury, a stellar performance against Dominic Breazeale on CBS/Showtime or FOX, and a stellar performance on PPV in the Ortiz rematch, and you'd be looking at an American heavyweight champion, 10 defenses into his reign and starting his run on PPV, who hits folks and leaves them for dead.

With a hook to sell to the audience beyond boxing, you're sitting on a gold mine that simply needs to be drilled.

Wilder-Joshua ever happens, with Wilder winning the fight in style, and you have the second coming of Mike Tyson in the US, with the benefit of Wilder being personable enough to actually do the media circuit.


1m PPV buys, @$60/$70, is an easy $30m in the pot, add in site fees, international TV, etc, and you're easily looking at a Wilder fight being worth over $50m if he simply keeps doing what he's doing and he breaks through.

At 32 years of age, with no extensive amateur wear on his body, no extensive issues with managing weight, and only two real wars so far (the arm injury doesn't help), Wilder could comfortably fight 2-3 times a year for the next 5 years, barring injury or setback.

Floyd had a decade run on top as the top draw; he didn't know for sure when/how it was going to happen, but that possibility was why Floyd had no issue giving Arum the $750k present value to try his own way.

Wilder and his camp have an idea for what's coming his way if he keeps handling his business, with or without Anthony Joshua.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I couldn't agree more man. Things were already shifting before Wilder - Fury, but once that fight was signed, I don't see why anyone would think AJ has more leverage than Team Wilder at this point. AJ is popular in the UK, but Eddie's done a terrible job of selling 'Anthony Johnson' here in the States, and the US is where the real PPV money is. Showtime thinks so, that's why they're putting their money on Wilder.

I don't know if I agree that Wilder would have more leverage than AJ, but it is evident that the leverage will increase substantially. If the event does even respectable numbers for a US PPV, Hearn could be looking at a negotiating disaster where a respectable guarantee and a percentage split, lets say 30% would have gotten the fight done. If Wilder vs. Fury is a respectable success, that guarantee along with the percentage shoots up, If its a block buster, where talking about a split of 45% or more. The fight won't bomb, and even if at minimum it's a moderate success, Hearn/AJ will be giving up more money and leverage than they would like. However, in reality AJ would still have more leverage once this is all said and done. I think the only way the'll completely lose the leverage to Wilder, is if this fight does north of 900k views - And as much as I would like to see that happen, I just can't picture this fight going up that high. In reality as I've been saying, this fight is a success if it does over 300K and in my opinion, it's a smashing success if does 600k or over.

[The plunger man]

I'm saying that investors in Tesla, and investors generally, have seen what Elon Musk has done so far, see what the plans are for the midterm, have weighed the operational execution risk, have projected out the future revenues for Tesla, before then discounting those future revenues to now, and they've concluded that Tesla and Ford should be comparable.

Deontay Wilder is set to make the 8th defense of his world title against Tyson Fury, and he's been slowly catching fire over the last two years or so. He's an American heavyweight champion, who flattens anyone put in front of him, almost always in dramatic fashion.

Even if the Joshua fight doesn't happen, a stellar performance on PPV against Tyson Fury, a stellar performance against Dominic Breazeale on CBS/Showtime or FOX, and a stellar performance on PPV in the Ortiz rematch, and you'd be looking at an American heavyweight champion, 10 defenses into his reign and starting his run on PPV, who hits folks and leaves them for dead.

With a hook to sell to the audience beyond boxing, you're sitting on a gold mine that simply needs to be drilled.

Wilder-Joshua ever happens, with Wilder winning the fight in style, and you have the second coming of Mike Tyson in the US, with the benefit of Wilder being personable enough to actually do the media circuit.


1m PPV buys, @$60/$70, is an easy $30m in the pot, add in site fees, international TV, etc, and you're easily looking at a Wilder fight being worth over $50m if he simply keeps doing what he's doing and he breaks through.

At 32 years of age, with no extensive amateur wear on his body, no extensive issues with managing weight, and only two real wars so far (the arm injury doesn't help), Wilder could comfortably fight 2-3 times a year for the next 5 years, barring injury or setback.

Floyd had a decade run on top as the top draw; he didn't know for sure when/how it was going to happen, but that possibility was why Floyd had no issue giving Arum the $750k present value to try his own way.

Wilder and his camp have an idea for what's coming his way if he keeps handling his business, with or without Anthony Joshua.

So stop talking in hindsight ....let wilder go prove he can sell good PPV numbers because at the moment he has not sold 1.
You keep on harping about what he might do and how he might sell.
The bottom line is you have a heavyweight champion with 7 defences in who has never boxed in vegas and never sold a ppv and who's biggest gate is 12k and your trying to justify him having the same percentage as a fighter that has 3 world belts , regulary sells upwards of 1.4 million ppvs buys , packs out 80k stadiums and has resume better at 22 fights than your guy at 40 fights...wake up dinny
Leaves them for dead ? Duhaupas ? Washington ? Molina ? Stiverne 1 ? You have serious delusional issues son

When is this so called press conference then ?
You have this whole issue confused .....i don't care if wilder beco es the 2nd coming of the messiah in the next 3 years and becomes the dollar ppv king.
This conversation is not about what deontay wilder might become , this is about wilder stepping in the ring with joshua nothing more nothing less and as we currently speak wilder is lucky he recieves 40% revenue for this fight and yet your dummy is now saying 50%.
Joshua when your guy gets the nerve to fight will spark him out cold and that will blow tesla ideas straight out the water.

[5000boxing]

AJ manfans are wierd as ***! Omg.. what a bunch of pocket watching broke ass casuals!

[Scipio2009]

So stop talking in hindsight ....let wilder go prove he can sell good PPV numbers because at the moment he has not sold 1.
You keep on harping about what he might do and how he might sell.
The bottom line is you have a heavyweight champion with 7 defences in who has never boxed in vegas and never sold a ppv and who's biggest gate is 12k and your trying to justify him having the same percentage as a fighter that has 3 world belts , regulary sells upwards of 1.4 million ppvs buys , packs out 80k stadiums and has resume better at 22 fights than your guy at 40 fights...wake up dinny
Leaves them for dead ? Duhaupas ? Washington ? Molina ? Stiverne 1 ? You have serious delusional issues son

When is this so called press conference then ?
You have this whole issue confused .....i don't care if wilder beco es the 2nd coming of the messiah in the next 3 years and becomes the dollar ppv king.
This conversation is not about what deontay wilder might become , this is about wilder stepping in the ring with joshua nothing more nothing less and as we currently speak wilder is lucky he recieves 40% revenue for this fight and yet your dummy is now saying 50%.
Joshua when your guy gets the nerve to fight will spark him out cold and that will blow tesla ideas straight out the water.

Deontay Wilder won his world title in Las Vegas and, again, he's been able to draw over 14k at Barclays Center, while also drawing more than 12k in Alabama. If you're going to have the conversation, stick to the actual facts.

Joshua-Klitschko did 1.6m buys on Sky Box Office; that much has been made public and confirmed.

The Povetkin fight may have gotten over 1m homes in the UK, but the fact that you think any of Joshua's other fights on Sky Box Office have broke even 750k homes is hilarious

[The plunger man]

Deontay Wilder won his world title in Las Vegas and, again, he's been able to draw over 14k at Barclays Center, while also drawing more than 12k in Alabama. If you're going to have the conversation, stick to the actual facts.

Joshua-Klitschko did 1.6m buys on Sky Box Office; that much has been made public and confirmed.

The Povetkin fight may have gotten over 1m homes in the UK, but the fact that you think any of Joshua's other fights on Sky Box Office have broke even 750k homes is hilarious

Joshua vs klitchcko was 1.6 million
Joshua vs parker was 1.422 million
Joshua vs povetkin was 1.5 million
Thats 3 straight away dummy

[The plunger man]

Deontay Wilder won his world title in Las Vegas and, again, he's been able to draw over 14k at Barclays Center, while also drawing more than 12k in Alabama. If you're going to have the conversation, stick to the actual facts.

Joshua-Klitschko did 1.6m buys on Sky Box Office; that much has been made public and confirmed.

The Povetkin fight may have gotten over 1m homes in the UK, but the fact that you think any of Joshua's other fights on Sky Box Office have broke even 750k homes is hilarious

Takam was 875k as well
So with joshua 3 put his lat 4 fights have broken a million buys on sky box office
Hilarious isnt it dummy ....now owned once again

[Scipio2009]

Joshua vs klitchcko was 1.6 million
Joshua vs parker was 1.422 million
Joshua vs povetkin was 1.5 million
Thats 3 straight away dummy

Based on what? Lol.

Adding extra decimal points doesn't make you look any less foolish, lol.

Nice try tho