Povetkin is better than Ortiz

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #61
    Originally posted by NEETzsche
    Povetkin has had the better career without question but it'd be a toss-up if they were to fight imo (right now and prime-for-prime). It'd be great if it could be made, the winner might even get one last title shot out of it
    I think this pretty much says it. Povetkin has better creds, but the book doesn’t tell the whole story. A head-to-head at this stage is tough to call. Could go either way.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #62
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Malik Scott UD.

      Enough said.

      Ps he didn't get dropped by Price.
      Malik Scott only threw 13 punches per round, he didn't win a single round and got dropped 5x.


      Malik Scott was leading Chisora on all 3 scorecards prior to a controversial 6th round stoppage where he beat the count and the ref waved it off.

      Ortiz is in a different class than Takam, Chisora and Pedvetkin.

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      • FrankieClutch
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        #63
        Not an outlandish opinion. Both are damn good fighters and I'd love to see them fight

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        • TheCell8
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          #64
          I think Ortiz is good but he's been greatly overrated for two main reasons: He's Cuban and the knockout over Bryant Jennings. From his amateur days, when he was thinner he was able to move his feet better. As a pro, he's kind of a plodder.

          The best way to settle this is to have them both fight.

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          • b00g13man
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            #65
            Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn

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            • joseph5620
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              #66
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
              Do you think Povetkin would have gone 12 rounds with Malik Scott? Do you think he would have taken 7 rounds to stop David Allen?

              Povetkin was legitimately beating AJ and was landing some real nasty shots until he gassed. I think he would take out Ortiz early.


              On the flip side of that I can't see Ortiz lasting only 7 rounds with Joshua. If f Wilder didn't take Ortiz or early it's highly unlikely Povetkin would. What fighter on the level of Ortiz has Povetkin taken out early? That's just silly.

              If fighters like Takam can go into the later rounds with Povetkin then your scenario is highly unlikely.
              Last edited by joseph5620; 09-24-2018, 01:22 PM.

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              • Mr Objecitivity
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                #67
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                Malik Scott only threw 13 punches per round, he didn't win a single round and got dropped 5x.


                Malik Scott was leading Chisora on all 3 scorecards prior to a controversial 6th round stoppage where he beat the count and the ref waved it off.

                Ortiz is in a different class than Takam, Chisora and Pedvetkin.
                What's Luis Ortiz's greatest achievement in boxing? In amateur and / or pro?

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                • sicko
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                  #68
                  Not too late to make that fight so we can find out or would some of you rather just make a complete ASS out of yourself but ASSUMING who is better because you don't want to run the risk of being wrong and getting laughed off this forum

                  Give me Ortiz, I think he either Stops or Box Circles around Povetkin. Both been stopped recently so I don't want to hear about how "AJ Softened Up Povetkin For Ortiz" when Ortiz himself was stopped by Wilder

                  Ortiz vs Povetkin with the winner getting another shot at Wilder or AJ. Not like the Heavyweight Division is deep anyway
                  Last edited by sicko; 09-24-2018, 01:32 PM.

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                  • joseph5620
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    I'm not so sure. Wilder was outfought the entire fight, down on the cards and nearly out on his feet.

                    AJ had a scare in one of the rounds, but otherwise cruised to a dramatic KO.

                    With regards to skill, Povetkin seems like the harder puncher, quicker fighter with better movement. Ortiz has a better jab and defense.

                    For my money. However, Povetkin's skills have been proven on a higher level than Ortiz's have.
                    Now you're just flat out lying. Also Wilder was ahead on all the cards by a point. I'm done with this.

                    https://********/KWNBVnscSho
                    Last edited by joseph5620; 09-24-2018, 01:40 PM.

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                    • Zaroku
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                      #70
                      I’d be a great fight, and I give a slight edge to provoking..
                      Ortiz has one hitter quitter power.

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