Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Drops, Stops Alexander Povetkin in Seventh

[SteveM]

Exotic accent?? You had to be a woman. By the way my accent is just as exotic. Joshua is from Watford. A dingy place with a Crap football team. I’m from London I can take you to see Big Ben, have tea with the queen.

Don’t rush your decision it is an open invitation for ever

That's a myth. She likes to do lines and watch porn films, at least she did when me and her hooked up.

[Raggamuffin]

No Meldonium+Ostarine=game over!

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Gerald frickin Washington out-boxed Wilder for a few rounds. Wilder is more athletic than AJ, but if that was all boxing was about it'd be a totally different sport.

And Frazier beat Ali, then went on to get utterly destroyed by Forman, who then lost to an older out his prime Ali, who went back and just barely beat Frazier in a rematch. If triangle theories worked, than boxing would be a different sport. Try to keep the assessment of a match up based on the abilities of the fighters, that's a real boxing assessment.

[True That]

Thanks, I used the Roku media digital player. Maybe that had something to do with it. Perhaps I should upgrade to the fire Stick or Google Chromecast or something. I am sorry man; I mean no disrespect but I cannot watch my fights on a phone

Lol, I hear you man. I was watching the undercard fights on my phone like the David Price fight. But went over to a friend's house to watch the main event on TV. Lol, I definitely wasn't going to watch the main event on my phone. Lol

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I’ve got a feeling they might have crossed paths at amateur level, definitely will have been knocking around at the same time.

Ortiz is bigger, I’ll give you that. Otherwise he has done nothing at either amateur or pro to suggest he’s a better fighter than Povetkin. You may believe he’s more powerful, more technical etc, but the fact is that his best win at any level is Bryant Jennings. Since losing (gallantly) to Wilder, Ortiz has become this mythical world beater, without ever having beaten a top class fighter.

As I've said on these forums before, resume does not determine the ability of the fighter. Vlad has a far more impressive resume than his brother Vitali, but Vitali was the far more impressive fighter. The question is not who has the best resume (which is funny because what has Povetkin done?), the question is who's the better fighter, When you break down the ability of each fighter, the intangibles, Ortiz comes out on top. Remember, the better fighter doesn't always win, that's a different question.

[SteveM]

And Frazier beat Ali, then went on to get utterly destroyed by Forman, who then lost to an older out his prime Ali, who went back and just barely beat Frazier in a rematch. If triangle theories worked, than boxing would be a different sport. Try to keep the assessment of a match up based on the abilities of the fighters, that's a real boxing assessment.

Huh? where did I use a triangle example? I'll wait.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Huh? where did I use a triangle example? I'll wait.

What was the meaning behind saying, "Gerald frickin Washington out-boxed Wilder for a few rounds"?

[sterilizer]

Are you new to boxing? Horrible comparison, and no it's not all relative. GGG absolutely hits harder than Canelo. The reason why you perceived Canelo's punches to be stronger, was because Canelo was punching with his feet flat on the ground leaning and moving forward, where as GGG was punching off of movement, and was often bouncing up when he punched. If you knew boxing you'd know GGG sacrificed a large amount of power in doing that. You also seem to have missed the fact that When GGG actually landed a solid punch, Canelo was shaken, where as Canelo's head punches were barely affecting GGG.

Oh no it's easy naming one opponent, Ortiz, who yes is better than Povetkin. Who is the same fighter that Hearn did not want in the ring with AJ. Who has AJ knocked out that was at the top of his game?

It was exactly THE OTHER WAY AROUND (bold faced stuff).

I hate arguments. But I watched the fight with commentary (US first, UK later) and i was fooled and brainwashed by the commentary like you seem to be. I believed them when thay said GGG won 116-112, landed the meaningful shots, "stunned Canelo," all of that bull**** of course.

THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO I decided to watch the whole fight again, in total silence. No crowd, no biased commentators.

And that opened my eyes. the stronger puncher was Canelo, and the strongest blows definitely came from him, EVERY SINGLE ROUND, no exception. In the 10th I was brainwashed by the biased commentary with the "Canelo is hurt" garbage. In silencie, I saw that GGG connnected ONE CLEAN PUNCH, that's it, that Canelo didn't see coming, so he lost a bit of his balance for a few seconds, only to resume punishing GGG badly right after he regained his footing.

You say tomahto I say tomeitou, to each their own. But I saw GGG a fragile, weak opponent in their last meeting and when it comes to the body, he was definitely hurt, that's why he slowed down so much, backing up all fight and even "running" I hate that ****** term, I mean backing up real quick many times specially after those vicious body punches. and if you look at the faces, Canelo had a big cut, probably from a few stiff jabs. whereas GGG had himself a big cut and a completely swollen and damaged face as well. And that is in a fight where Canelo's punishment was delivered way more to the body than the face.

Like I said i hate arguing. You seem to be a GGG big fan or just another Canelo hater. Me, in this particular case, I'm totally unbiased here since none of the two are even close to any of my favorite fighters, and I was not cheering for either, I didn't care of the outcome a¡s long as it wasn't a robbery. And it wasn't, Canelo won fair and square.

So my comparison still holds. GGG was unproven before Canelo. defeating a "39 year old" liar in Ortiz who everybody knows he is really around 45 years of age, proves nothing. Wladimir is WAY, WAY ABOVE him. Joshua survived a knock down and then decisively KO'd Klitschko. To me, that's way more convincing than defeating a very old completely past his prime Ortiz.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

It was exactly THE OTHER WAY AROUND (bold faced stuff).

I hate arguments. But I watched the fight with commentary (US first, UK later) and i was fooled and brainwashed by the commentary like you seem to be. I believed them when thay said ggG won 116-112, landed the meaningful shots, "stunned Canelo," all of that bull**** of course.

THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO I decided to watch the whole fight again, in total silence. No crowd, no biased commentators.

And that opened my eyes. the stronger puncher was Canelo, and the strongest blows definitely came from him, EVERY SINGLE ROUND, no exception. In the 10th I was brainwashed by the biased commentary with the "Canelo is hurt" garbage. In silenci, I saw that ggG connnected ONE CLEAN PUNCH, that's it, that Canelo didn't see coming, so he lost a bit of his balance for a few seconds, only to resume punishing GGG badly right after he regain his footing.

You to tomahto I say tomeitou, to each their own. But I saw GGG a fragile, weak opponent in their last meeting and when it comes to the body, he was definitely hurt, that's why he slowed down so much, backing up all fight and even "running" I hate that ****** term, I mean backing up real quick many times specially after those vicious body punches. and if you look at the faces, Canelo had a big cut, probably from a few stiff jabs. whereas GGG had himself a big cut and a completely swollen and damaged face as well. And that is in a fight where Canelo's punishment was delivered way more to the body than the face.

Like I said i hate arguing. You seem to be a GGG big fan or just another Canelo hater. Me, in this particular case, I'm totally unbiased here since none of the two are even close to any of my favorite fighters, and I was not cheering for either, I didn't care of the outcome a¡s long as it wasn't a robbery. And it wasn't, Canelo won fair and square.

So my comparison still holds. GGG was unproven before Canelo. defeating a "39 year old" liar in Ortiz who everybody knows he is really around 45 years of age, proves nothing. Wladimir is WAY, WAY ABOVE him. Joshua survived a knock down and then decisively KO'd Klitschko. To me, that's way more convincing than defeating a very old completely past his prime Ortiz.

Do me a favor and re-read what I wrote. Pretty damn sure it went completely over you're head. Your first sentence makes less sense than your argument. And HBO commentary was pretty much a stroke job for Canelo, with both Max and Jones saying he was landing the cleaner harder shots. So I don't know what U.S. commentary you are talking about.

And stay away from the "look at their faces" comparison. Joe Frazier looked like Quazi motto after he fought Ali, doesn't mean he lost the fight. Like I said re-read my post, and I challenge you to find HBO commentary that matches a single thing I said.

[lion33lit]

As I've said on these forums before, resume does not determine the ability of the fighter. Vlad has a far more impressive resume than his brother Vitali, but Vitali was the far more impressive fighter. The question is not who has the best resume (which is funny because what has Povetkin done?), the question is who's the better fighter, When you break down the ability of each fighter, the intangibles, Ortiz comes out on top. Remember, the better fighter doesn't always win, that's a different question.

Exactly right! Well said!!