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  • sterilizer
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    #901
    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
    They each have advantages and disadvantages. But I think it's time, just as everyone has conceded that AJ is the better technical boxer, all need to concede that Wilder is the harder puncher. There shouldn't even be an argument. Wilder has concussive knock out power, he has the kind of power that detaches people from their senses. AJ certainly has above average power, but it is not in the realm of Wilder's. We are talking about beyond Forman, maybe equaling Tyson possibly surpassing, when you take into consideration the difference in size and muscle between the two fighters. When you also consider that Wilder's punches have put people in to convulsions, has lifted people off the ground, he knocked out a fight with the palm of his glove, and he hit Stivern so hard in the face, that Stivern was complaining Wilder hit him behind the head. AJ's power just doesn't reach that level.
    It's all relative.

    It's like people were saying all the time that GGG had way more power than Canelo, because of GGG's record previous 90%+ non-elite fighters. Then casually, he faces top-level contenders in Jacobs and Canelo and he is no longer that much powerful, especially vs. Canelo who was definitely the heavier hitter by far in their last meeting. I'd draw the same picture for Wilder's case at this moment.

    Certainly, Wilder has sent several people to the hospital. But can you name ONE FIGHTER the same level of Wladimir or Povetkin, that Wilder has ever faced and KO'd in such a decisive fashion? I will be waiting, it should be interesting to hear the answer.

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    • KnickTillDeaTh
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      #902
      Originally posted by AdonisCreed
      Too bad AJ and Wilder fight isn't happening next. But as long as AJ picks good opponents I'm cool with that kind of over him and Wilder fighting I figure I'll just enjoy watching them fight which is the best thing and if the fight eventually happens it's a bonus (though it makes me frustrated at times still). But all in all I like quality fights.
      Far be it for me to tell anyone how to enjoy or express their fandom, but as a boxing fan, this comment is like eating vomit that was already regurgitated by someone else. If fans are ok with the biggest fights not happening, then the biggest fights won't happen. How is AJ fighting Povetkin a better fight than him fighting Wilder? The quality of a fight is automatically reduced by virtue of better fights being available. Povetkin is living off of a fight from 5 years ago. The fight was entertaining while it lasted, but in no way should this be the standard for a Wilder fight not happening.

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        #903
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        So you're assumption is because Povetkin was able to get in on AJ so easily, he'd be able to do it Wilder just as easy?

        Never mind that Wilder is faster than AJ, moves around quickly, unlike AJ, and prefers to fight from the outside, unlike AJ who likes to jab into closer contact. I mean style makes fights man, you can't just assume Povetkin would get close to Wilder because he got close to AJ, two completely different styles of fighting.
        Gerald frickin Washington out-boxed Wilder for a few rounds. Wilder is more athletic than AJ, but if that was all boxing was about it'd be a totally different sport.

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          #904
          Yes! That was an entertaining fight! Povetkin is very tough, Joshua showed his composure he is still improving. Great win for Joshua!

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            #905
            Originally posted by DramaShow
            they were telling us noones interested in this fight
            Hmmmm...... nonnes??? People were interested in this fight but not quite sure what "noones" are 🤔

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              #906
              Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
              Thanks Christ they didn't. Let's just get on with it I say
              I was joking , but being honest, I think the russian anthem and 90k drunk brits singing God save the queen would add more atmosphere than that cheesy rap.

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              • kushking
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                #907
                AJ will get kod by Wilder & he knows it. I even think hed lose on Pts to Fury.IMHO If povetkin didn't just suddenly fold like a lawn chair(as expected) he could've beaten AJ on pts CLEARLY,but after dominating early on he just said" fck it im old & don't have it in me no more"

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                  #908
                  Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                  And reading through these responses you would think Povetikin was an undisputed, undefeated, lineal heavyweight champ with an HOF resume. lol.. Ortiz is bigger, moves better, and is a better technical boxer. He has more power than Povetkin, and can fight going in or coming out. Povetkin has quick hands but he can only fight going in. And his size power puts him behind the 8 ball before he even steps in the ring. Yeah based on this Ortiz does come off as the better of the two.
                  I’ve got a feeling they might have crossed paths at amateur level, definitely will have been knocking around at the same time.

                  Ortiz is bigger, I’ll give you that. Otherwise he has done nothing at either amateur or pro to suggest he’s a better fighter than Povetkin. You may believe he’s more powerful, more technical etc, but the fact is that his best win at any level is Bryant Jennings. Since losing (gallantly) to Wilder, Ortiz has become this mythical world beater, without ever having beaten a top class fighter.

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                  • sterilizer
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                    #909
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    Exotic accent?? You had to be a woman. By the way my accent is just as exotic. Joshua is from Watford. A dingy place with a Crap football team. I’m from London I can take you to see Big Ben, have tea with the queen.

                    Don’t rush your decision it is an open invitation for ever
                    It's exotic to me, a person with a boring Canadian-American accent. At least boring to me. BTW my boyfriend is from the area where A Christmas Carol, 1984 version with George C Scott, was filmed. You're from the UK, you perfectly must know what area I'm referring to. My BF's accent is awesome, I love it, but I also love Joshua's, because it is way less "standard," and i even have a little bit of trouble sometimes understanding everything he says. To each their own, IDK, some people may find the North American English accent fascinating. I don't. Joshua's, to me, is VERY exotic.

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                    • KnickTillDeaTh
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                      #910
                      Originally posted by sterilizer
                      It's all relative.

                      It's like people were saying all the time that GGG had way more power than Canelo, because of GGG's record previous 90%+ non-elite fighters. Then casually, he faces top-level contenders in Jacobs and Canelo and he is no longer that much powerful, especially vs. Canelo who was definitely the heavier hitter by far in their last meeting. I'd draw the same picture for Wilder's case at this moment.

                      Certainly, Wilder has sent several people to the hospital. But can you name ONE FIGHTER the same level of Wladimir or Povetkin, that Wilder has ever faced and KO'd in such a decisive fashion? I will be waiting, it should be interesting to hear the answer.
                      Are you new to boxing? Horrible comparison, and no it's not all relative. GGG absolutely hits harder than Canelo. The reason why you perceived Canelo's punches to be stronger, was because Canelo was punching with his feet flat on the ground leaning and moving forward, where as GGG was punching off of movement, and was often bouncing up when he punched. If you knew boxing you'd know GGG sacrificed a large amount of power in doing that. You also seem to have missed the fact that When GGG actually landed a solid punch, Canelo was shaken, where as Canelo's head punches were barely affecting GGG.

                      Oh no it's easy naming one opponent, Ortiz, who yes is better than Povetkin. Who is the same fighter that Hearn did not want in the ring with AJ. Who has AJ knocked out that was at the top of his game?

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