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  • Century Tuna
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    Golden boy is now the new Don king . To beat one of his fighter you got to knock them out. Period. The scoring was just agregious. Just look at his mothers face. She alone tell the story and listen to HBO analyst and harold lederman unofficial score cart . After the winner was announce they simply did a 360.
    One more thing, the whole arena knew he loss.. the place was silent and astonished at the same time if that is possible.
    It just a shame for the sport when a hall of Famer in his final analysis has to say to us to follow the money as an explanation. Just another sad day for boxing.
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    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    Golden boy is now the new Don king . To beat one of his fighter you got to knock them out. Period. The scoring was just agregious. Just look at his mothers face. She alone tell the story and listen to HBO analyst and harold lederman unofficial score cart . After the winner was announce they simply did a 360.
    One more thing, the whole arena knew he loss.. the place was silent and astonished at the same time if that is possible.
    It just a shame for the sport when a hall of Famer in his final analysis has to say to us to follow the money as an explanation. Just another sad day for boxing.
    Lemieux got beat, JoJo Diaz Jr got beat, Sadam Ali got beat, Orozco got beat, and Ryan Garcia almost lost a development fight on the cards.

    What are you talking about?

    The four criteria of boxing are clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

    Golovkin didn't punch clean, he wants effective in his aggression, Golovkin didn't control the pace for more than maybe 2-3 rounds, and Golovkin had very few answers for Canelo's work on the counter.

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    • chrisJS
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      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Lemieux got beat, JoJo Diaz Jr got beat, Sadam Ali got beat, Orozco got beat, and Ryan Garcia almost lost a development fight on the cards.

      What are you talking about?

      The four criteria of boxing are clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

      Golovkin didn't punch clean, he wants effective in his aggression, Golovkin didn't control the pace for more than maybe 2-3 rounds, and Golovkin had very few answers for Canelo's work on the counter.
      You are pointing to fights that were either 10-2 or 12-0 shutouts and KO's. That's a lot different than 8-4/7-5 fights that next to nobody agreed with the official verdicts.

      I go to a lot of GBP shows. Belasco, Forum, Fantasy Springs recently the one at the Avalon and one thing is often true is that every card has some crazy scores. If it's a guy they are more invested in and the fight is say 6-4 or like a 5-3 fight with prospects or the women their guy often gets scores like 9-1/10-0 or 8-0 on more than one card.

      There's something fishy going on for sure. I remember even when Hopkins got KO'd they had their MC guy Tattoo get on the mic and start telling the audience "Joe Smith you didn't win that fight fair and square" which was so distasteful taking away Smith's moment and that showed their mentality IMO. If they control the show there guy can't lose and even when he does lose we'll take the other guys moment away and brainwash the fans.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #4
        I think we've all seen Canelo and Chavez Sr. get favorable cards where we all thought they lost. In that respect, comparing GBP to King is very fair.

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        • Jsmooth9876
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          #5
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Lemieux got beat, JoJo Diaz Jr got beat, Sadam Ali got beat, Orozco got beat, and Ryan Garcia almost lost a development fight on the cards.

          What are you talking about?

          The four criteria of boxing are clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

          Golovkin didn't punch clean, he wants effective in his aggression, Golovkin didn't control the pace for more than maybe 2-3 rounds, and Golovkin had very few answers for Canelo's work on the counter.
          Yeah we didnt see GGG snapping Canelos head back with stiff jabs all night. We didnt see him catching tons of canelos punches or making him miss completely by moving his feet. We didnt see him landing uppercuts . We didnt see him have canelo buzzed. We didnt see any of it. We were all mislead by HBO commentary and led to believe he did those things when he never really did.

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          • TheBigLug
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            #6
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Lemieux got beat, JoJo Diaz Jr got beat, Sadam Ali got beat, Orozco got beat, and Ryan Garcia almost lost a development fight on the cards.

            What are you talking about?

            The four criteria of boxing are clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

            Golovkin didn't punch clean, he wants effective in his aggression, Golovkin didn't control the pace for more than maybe 2-3 rounds, and Golovkin had very few answers for Canelo's work on the counter.

            Sadam Ali only has two losses, both Knockout.

            Lemieux got schooled that badly that it might aswell have been a stoppage, they could never give it to him. He lost every second of the fight.

            Ryan Garcia almost lost, but didn't and was never going to in the event of a close fight, like Canelo, that's the point isn't it?

            Unless you knock them out or almost shut them out really badly, then you're probably not getting a decision.

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            • chrisJS
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              #7
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              I think we've all seen Canelo and Chavez Sr. get favorable cards where we all thought they lost. In that respect, comparing GBP to King is very fair.
              Chavez had LaPorte and Lockridge as either way type fights but fair enough decisions (I haven't seen in years but felt both to be 6-6 type fights), Whitaker he lost 9-3, Taylor I obviously he got a save and then there was Randall II which was bogus and the hilarious "mix-up" on the Gonzalez cards where they still said "Oh we added it up wrong but we'll just keep the result as a draw".

              Great fighter but damn if he didn't get everything his way. I wish Marquez had their luck he'd have been 62-1 with the 1 loss a majority decision loss to Floyd.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #8
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Chavez had LaPorte and Lockridge as either way type fights but fair enough decisions (I haven't seen in years but felt both to be 6-6 type fights), Whitaker he lost 9-3, Taylor I obviously he got a save and then there was Randall II which was bogus and the hilarious "mix-up" on the Gonzalez cards where they still said "Oh we added it up wrong but we'll just keep the result as a draw".

                Great fighter but damn if he didn't get everything his way. I wish Marquez had their luck he'd have been 62-1 with the 1 loss a majority decision loss to Floyd.
                Laporte and Lockridge were like back to back questionable wins. Notice Chavez never went back to NYC after that Laporte fight.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Laporte and Lockridge were like back to back questionable wins. Notice Chavez never went back to NYC after that Laporte fight.
                  Lockridge should have W's over (a badly faded) Gomez, Pedroza and arguably Chavez. Flip even just two of those unlucky losses and his resume looks great. It's crazy how minor details in Boxing can change a fighters legacy regardless of what happened between the ropes.

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                  • MalaysiaPac
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                    But he knew about this before hand. Team GGG knows that they can't beat Canelo on the score cards yet they still took it to the score cards. I dont understand why GGG just didnt go all out. A loss is a loss whether its a decision or ko. You know your not gonna win a decision so might as well go for broke.

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