Number of Punches Determines a Winner?

[TonyGe]

Every single sport would be chaos if it were judged like boxing. In fact, I don't think they would survive. There are criteria but what concrete criteria are there and is the criteria stuck to? Often times, it is not. It boils down to the three opinions. Facts with the numbers are much harder to argue with. Sure, some people would still claim a fighter won if he landed fewer punches but at least you could say, "Well he landed more punches." You can give all kinds of reasons now but they don't mean much, can't be disputed and in the end, will never be reversed. You could actually argue punch numbers in a courtroom. But look at Pac-Bradley I. That ever get changed? Nope. According to the punch numbers, there would have been no controversy.

If people want to keep it the way it is, fine, but you will always have un-popular decisions this way. You know the next one is right around the corner.

Just to expand on what you said. Two guys fight. First fighter wins 8 rounds clearly doesn't really hurt him but has a big lead in punches. Second fighter badly beats the crap out of the guy in the last four rounds. Who wins or is it a draw?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Just to expand on what you said. Two guys fight. First fighter wins 8 rounds clearly doesn't really hurt him but has a big lead in punches. Second fighter badly beats the crap out of the guy in the last four rounds. Who wins or is it a draw?

Strictly based on who lands more punches by the end of the fight. Now, if knockdowns occur, I'd say extra ten or fifteen shots be added to their tally. And of course, if a point is taken away for lowblows, headbutts, etc., then that's minus fifteen points/punches. Simple and to the point.

If you honestly look at most of the robberies, the punch numbers favor the winner nearly every time.

[TonyGe]

Strictly based on who lands more punches by the end of the fight. Now, if knockdowns occur, I'd say extra ten or fifteen shots be added to their tally. And of course, if a point is taken away for lowblows, headbutts, etc., then that's minus fifteen points/punches. Simple and to the point.

If you honestly look at most of the robberies, the punch numbers favor the winner nearly every time.

Yeah punch numbers usually indicate how the fight went. I was just showing how subjective boxing can be. The guy who won the last four rounds could have had them scored 10-8.

[BoxingTech718]

Not if one guy is landing little slapping jabs and one guy is landing thudding body punches. Quality of work has to get some consideration. I think going to overtime or 15 rounds if a fight is close should be done. That way it raises the chance of a guy getting stopped late.

[eternalfighter]

Might as well watch amateur boxing, and leave the pros to others.

The only knowledgable comment in this thread...

[eternalfighter]

That's an interesting opinion.

Shared by the judges and most pro fighters...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Shared by the judges and most pro fighters...

"Judges."



Those three people who give their opinions to decide the outcome of months of training by two guys? Well, what power. I'm sure they do share that opinion that supports them deciding the fighters' fate with their "opinion."

As far as the fighters, well, they may support it but I guarantee you they complain when they get that bad decision, too.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

[eternalfighter]

"Judges."



Those three people who give their opinions to decide the outcome of months of training by two guys? Well, what power. I'm sure they do share that opinion that supports them deciding the fighters' fate with their "opinion."

As far as the fighters, well, they may support it but I guarantee you they complain when they get that bad decision, too.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

You don't even know the difference between the pro and the amateur scoring criteria...thats your problem.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

You don't even know the difference between the pro and the amateur scoring criteria...thats your problem.

Okay. Break it down for me, man. Enlighten everybody.

[Manboyeatme]

I believe there should be more 10-8 and 10-10 rounds. Allow a fighter to get more points for a really good round so it can stand out from the very close rounds.