Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Canelo Won Clearly, He Broke Golovkin

[Cigar]

This idiot is the only person I've heard say that Canelo clearly won!

[markther]

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Bro im the wrong person to try to intimedate so save it..why you got so angry lol

anyway I remember you as one of the dudes saying that GGG would win like YOU just said "you considered GGG". When you "considered" him on a post that YOU tryped, thats what I remember. So calm down. And like I said he NEVER said he had GGG slightly winning. THose words never came out of his mouth he said "he could of gave GGG the fight in a sense HAD he(GGG) NOT asked Canelo to come out and FIGHT me and Canelo did just that". I can quote more if you would like... He even said Canelo landed the harder cleaner punches in this same interview.

Now we know your a liar. I’m suprised they cant hire more people in the mental ward. They let you out and give you access to computers-LOL!!!!

[Bronx2245]

ward also didnt get a network behind him paying him to face all b/c level guys in order to boost his profile and get themselves a "star"

ward had to go through the super 6 where he was an underdog....and when he came back hbo wanted him at 175 so they didnt have to face the prospects of him and golovkin at 168

im glad golovkin got paid...i really am...but ward aint salty...he just dont have a ton of respect for golovkin...golovkin ran his gums when ward was sidelined and tucked his tail when ward was back...ward prob dont have a ton of respect for golovkin thats all...its not bitterness about any money...ward has money...

when ward came back he made 20 mil in 2 years

You're on point! Ward and everyone on that HBO panel, knows that he would've beat the ***** out of GGG @ 168! Canelo was folding GGG at the waist, Ward would've hospitalized him! Ward was denied his shine by HBO, but Karma is b***h! Without Canelo and GBP, HBO will be folded up too!

[SteveM]

Fame and recognition. He's also made more money from boxing than Ward. Golovkin is a foreigner, Ward is a national. I think that irks Ward. Especially since Golovkin was able to duck Ward without any reprecussions. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm a Ward fan, not a Golovkin fan.

When did you have a personality change? You used to be very biased and now you are one of the more rational and unbiased posters. Welcome!

[Robi13]

Don't you know? Every foreign boxer is just a hypejob created by "the white supremacists at HBO," I mean couldn't you hear them favoring GGG and ****ting on Canelo all night? They wanted Canelo to lose so bad! Everything is always in GGG's favor, and against Canelo and the American brothers! Every foreign boxer is a hypejobcreated by white supremacist HBO, and whenever they lose more 2 rounds in a fight, it means they were "exposed," and any time a decision goes against them, no matter how corrupt the judges (for Loma it was in Texas with the worst ref in the world son of the commissioner I believe, for Kovalev and GGG it was Vegas), it's not just a loss, it means they were "broken." When Kovalev got hit with 50 low blows by Ward, and got three uppercuts in a row right to the nuts and bent down expecting Ward to get warned, that was him "quitting." When GGG won the last 3 rounds against Canelo and stunned him twice, that meant Canelo "broke" GGG.

It honestly feels like bizarro world, that these are the people given large megaphones to voice what is supposed to be the normal, official take on what happened. Just because guys like Roy and Ward are ex-boxers does not mean they are fair-minded, good people who should be given the power and RESPONSIBILITY of that megaphone. They clearly either have personal animus towards GGG, or are simply xenophobic or jealous (very Christian, Andre) or something. The man gets ducked by Canelo for 3 years, Canelo even drops the belt to delay the fight until GGG is past his prime, Canelo only takes the fight after he sees clear slippage from GGG against both Brook and Jacobs (I noticed him slipping way before that but it only showed up obviously once GGG faced Brook and Jacobs), they rob GGG the first time, then Canelo pops for steroids and makes GGG get even a year older, then in the rematch I think GGG's altitude extreme training is really *****ing with his body now at this age because he was breathing super heavy against Canelo before Canelo even hit him once in the body... so basically after all that, I think GGG hit the wall, physically, by the 2nd or 3rd round against Canelo, a prime, fast, big puncher, in the biggest fight of GGG's career... so GGG was having to fight this guy with no air in his lungs, at only a percentage of his best self, and yet with his skill but mostly pure heart, after EVERYTHING that went against him, mostly by Canelo, Vegas, HBO, and other people, but some by his own team's mistakes, after ALL that, GGG still manages to put in an epic performance that will remembered for a long time and COME BACK to beat the prime opponent who actually has a competent trainer, but still look how they talk about him.

It reminds me of how Chocolatito moved up in weight to fight much bigger men, at an age where Chocolatito was already reaching the end of his prime, then he signed to fight a much bigger, super dangerous, super hard punching mandatory, Sor Rungvisai, instead of ducking his mandatory like so many of the American and Mexican stars do, then Sor Rungvisai dropped him with a body shot in the first round before headbutting him multiple times not long later, and Chocolatito had to fight the rest of the fight with blood spurting out his face in his eyes, against a much bigger, huge punching opponent, and yet somehow Chocolatito came back against all the odds and put in Rocky type of performance, only for the decision to be given to Sor Rungvisai, ironically, some believe, to clear the #1 P4P spot up so they could give it to the American, Ward.

Now, that fight Im still not actually sure who deserved to win, but it was an epic performance worthy of respect. The other reason it reminds me of Canelo-GGG II is that despite the performance Chocolatito gave, all the usual suspects were still online ****ting on him and calling him a white hypejob, I kid you not.

Canelo-GGG II, GGG definitely won, but it's the same type of thing. Everything was put in place to make him lose, that is what the powers that be wanted to happen, but with pure heart and will he flipped that script and forced them to rob him again if they were going to give it to Canelo. So, they did. Anyone who celebrates that most likely just had some serious family issues growing up or something and they have serious issues, they're not a fair or balanced person, they're the type of people who would poison an opponent before a fight but still beat their chest after knocking him out. Pathetic, little people. Not all, some are just Mexican homers, but many of the others are just pathetic.

Some one needs to ban this guy. His ignorance can affect some people and make this world a worst place. Can't have that we must progress not regress.

[Dean_Razorback]

ward sounds saltier than GGG's fans

[Robi13]

when ward was able to fight he needed a tune up first lol. 2 fight deal and delay the canelo fight just for ward nah dont think so. that offer was publicity to claim ggg ducked but if ward wanted to fight he would have just offered to fight ggg not in a years time while ggg was clearly on a fight by fight basis. some people refuse to understand this and play dumb over and over

Just like ggg could of just chosen to fight sergy instead of vanes right? Canelo won and im so happy he did..ggg sucks just like you lmao

[Dean_Razorback]

Sanchez told the media that GGG gave away the 12th round this after he told GGG heading into the 8th you losing the fight. Stop your crying GGG got punked, walked down, his face broken, destroyed to the body and mentally shattered evident by him running to the showers like a bytch. He begged for Mexican Style but wanted no parts of that type of fight and got a Mexican Style azzz whooping.

i wouldn't trust pictures that much

[twosweethooks]

Man I hate to tell Andre the truth! Truth is gonna Hurt. It just flays you wide open. It sets things straight!! The truth is incontrovertible!!!

The statement that Andre made about G is false that the truth! Canelo didn’t break G !! G hand Canelo on ***** Street what in round 9 or ten. The fight in the Garden might have gone the other way and definitely the first fight would have!!!

Andre is Jealous of G’s record and Knockouts!!

The TRUTH about boring Andre is : He is FULL IF SHLT !!

[kushking]

I respect Ward but of course he will say that. It was largely believed that he was breaking down Kovalev and controlling their fight in their rematch even though it appeared that Kovalev was winning more rounds. People will argue that it was low blows or whatever that ended it. The bottom line is Kovalev looked like he was going to continue to weaken down the stretch and Ward would have eventually dominated him the rest of the 8th if it wasn’t stopped, and in rounds 9 through 12. And we see what happened against Alvarez and Kovalev.

And that’s what Ward is doing, comparing Canelo’s fight plan to his own with a desire to educate fans that it’s more than just landing more punches but the optics and what perception the fighter puts on the judges with respect to who is actually “controlling” the fight. Roy Jones Jr mentioned that throughout the fight on HBO, that Canelo was controlling the fight, even though he said he had GGG slightly winning. It’s about what the JUDGES are seeing right in front of them and how they are being swayed.

Thats a great point,too many people are watching compubox, listening to commentary/lederman card,not keeping score on paper,& just altogether not having actually spent the time to learn/practice how to properly unbiasedly score the fight or even learn how the judges are scoring it. If they did those things in my personal opinion GGG didn't win either fight, because despite how much many fans don't like it DEFENSE is a very big part of how a fight is scored & when both fighters are landing throughout,its ALWAYS most important whos winning each exchange & all exchanges in each rd altogether. If 1 fighter lands 46 body shots(all power punches) to his opponents 6 total body shots,outlands him heavily in power shots in 9 rds,& almost matches him in jabs in those rds,while landing almost all the combos/cleanest punches= then that fighter deserves to win. Especially when one considers that said fighter was controlling the fight & making the other miss wildly while only being able to land jabs to keep opponent off of him.

I don't know where some fans got this idea that touching opponents more times with weak jabs to the head somehow wins pro fights; especially ones where their opponents landing every shot in arsenal to body & chin,while doing it at higher percentage & while landing far more cleanly in each exchange.