GGG vs Canelo; media row bias.

[S7V7N]

I mean sure there is a lean, there's always gonna be a lean cuz its statistically impossible for there to not to be when someone wins & the consensus rbr opinion is a draw.

I'll add there is a lean against GGG in the 3rd & 5th rounds as well where he should have gotten 1 judge going for him in both of those rds based on more than 33% of the media feeling he won those rds.

Round 3: 51/49 Canelo, Judges Canelo Canelo Canelo
Round 5: 54/46 Canelo, Judges Canelo Canelo Canelo

So there is a solid argument in the 36 judgments being made by the 3 judges in these 12 rounds 5 were incorrect if we are using the media consensus as a concrete take on how the judges shoulda scored the fight.

GGG shoulda had 1 judge for the 3rd & 5th when all judges went for Canelo instead. GGG shoulda had 1 more judge for the 9th when it was 2-1 Canelo. And he shoulda had 2 more judges for the 12th (although Canelo was just under 33% at 30% feeling he won the rd so thats pretty close obviously) when it was 2-1 Canelo.

Thing is there is still variance that would make this fight that was judged 86% correctly go either way. Thats just a reality. So basically if you really wanna prove there is a Canelo lean you need to do this type of info gathering for more than one fight.

And honestly with some of the Canelo cards out there I think you could actually find it if you choose to look for it, but one fight/36 judged rounds by 3 judges doesn't really prove anything cuz variance is a mfer with %'s.

Interesting info regardless of any opinions one takes away from this info or not & its much appreciated & much respected for taking the time to compile it.

Thought it'd also be worth mentioning that not one other person on that list came up with the same combination of 3,5,9 & 12 that both Weisfeld & Moretti did.

In fact, only 2 others even scored 3 of those rounds together. Rollings (SI) [5,9,12] & Mannix (Yahoo!) [3,5,9]. Is why none come up with Canelo winning the fight.

I'll have to do some more comparisons, but last thing I wanted was more homework! Just seems like too much of a coincidence to me.

[g27region]

The quality of his work declined greatly and it was clear that he would not have the speed or timing to finish Golovkin if he had to. Meanwhile, GG was still fairly crisp. Judges USUALLY don't reward work that is labored as much as the efficient, crisp stuff. I was looking at it with this eye and was really surprised that Canelo was given as many rounds as he was, given that he looked fatigued and sloppy.

Same thoughts. I was watching late rounds, thinking "it's not how the winner should look like". Canelo is good when he's fresh.

['b']

To be fair to Canelo, that boy he was fighting got lit up like a Christmas tree on the 4th of june

[TonyGe]

To be fair to Canelo, that boy he was fighting got lit up like a Christmas tree on the 4th of june

Shontae please could you at least try to add some thing sensible to the conversation.

['b']

Shontae please could you at least try to add some thing sensible to the conversation.

Yes please

[TonyGe]

Yes please

Thank you. Now run along and have your girlfriend spank you.

['b']

Thank you. Now run along and have your girlfriend spank you.

Yes thank you

[The Big Dunn]

Some of us are very stubborn!
Yes, I hear ya. As GGG said, he learned from the first fight what the Boxing business is really all about. He's only going to become more resentful of the system, his efforts go unrewarded.

He needed to do more to win against this opponent, I get that. He did enough to deserve keeping his belts though.

I don't think he needed to do more. I think a case can be made he won 8 rounds. He was never going to get 7 rounds on more than 1 judges scorecard.

If Floyd only got a MD after winning all 12 rounds GGG and his team needed to realize its KO or loss.

[The Big Dunn]

So you’re good with the corruption in boxing?

No. That said, if you are GGG and his team you need only look at history to tell you what was going to happen if you didn't KO Canelo in Vegas.

Floyd-MD when he won all 12 rds. GGG draw when he arguably won 8 rds in the 1st fight. Lara-controversial SD.

Knowing all this if you accept a fight with Canelo in Vegas you have to know if you don't KO him the cards are not going to be in your favor.

[Vasyl’s dad]

No. That said, if you are GGG and his team you need only look at history to tell you what was going to happen if you didn't KO Canelo in Vegas.

Floyd-MD when he won all 12 rds. GGG draw when he arguably won 8 rds in the 1st fight. Lara-controversial SD.

Knowing all this if you accept a fight with Canelo in Vegas you have to know if you don't KO him the cards are not going to be in your favor.

So then you’re saying people should not accept the fight?