Who’s Greater: Roy Jones or Bernard Hopkins?

[AllEyesOpen]

The fact that B-HOP stayed on top of his game for as long as he did proves that he has his own place in history, not to take anything away from RJJ.

[King Koyle]

I think Hopkins has had the better career.But Roy did clearly beat Hop in 1993.Even though Hop was inexperienced at the time.So I give it to Roy by a very close margin.

[PATO 1]

hard to say

Jones never really took a fight were people stood up an said whoa i cant say who wins this it to close to call but B-Hop had arguably 3

Tito
Tarver
Oscar

rjj though has the better legacy

[The Troll]

Hopkins is better, Jones lost to Tarver 2 fights after what is considered the best win of his career, against Ruiz. And he did not just lose, he got concussed in less than 2 rounds. Then all the guy has is excuses, about weight loss, (a year or so after the Ruiz fight,) about "not being motivated" and all that ****, what made it funnier is the loss he takes to the career journeyman Glen Johnson again by knockout in the following fight. And niether Antonio Tarver or Glen Johnson are exactly world beaters.

About the Hopkins Jones fighter. Jones had like 200 more amateur fights than did Hopkins. Hopkins was extremely green and still the fight wasn't as lopsided as some of you make it out to be. I scored 8-4 in favor of Jones but Hopkins landed the better punches throughout the fight, the rounds Jones won were very lackluster.

[AllEyesOpen]

I don't know what fights you've seen, but he nearly won every round against Tarver, & he dominated bot Tito & DLH, the only close fight I'd say was Taylor, which is maybe what you ment.

[Left2body]

hopkins. the ability to handle and come back from defeat is what seperates the good from the great. roy jones lost and was done, hopkins lost and went on to win another world title in another division from the guy that ended roid jones career. jones was definately juiced and hopkins was more diciplined.
roy jones junior is the most over rated boxer of our time.

Its one thing when your in your prime or early in your career to recover from a loss but its different when you are already at the tail end of your career.

Most people dont begrudge Sugar Ray Robinson or Ali many of the losses they acrued towards the end of there career. Same with Roy Jones. Roy still had good abilities but his fighting style wasn't based on good physical abilities it was based on Superhuman reflexes, speed and power. Yes, you can say Roy didn't have the fundamentals to adapt his fighting style after noticing the corrosion of his skills (the way Ali did). But that doesn't detract from his previous 49 wins.

The fact of the matter is Roy Jones beat a 29year old Hopkins not a "Green" fighter. Hopkins hadn't loss his previous 20 fights before Roy and went 20+ more fights before lossing again so how was Hopkins "Green". Roy has on his resume B-Hop, James Toney, Montel Griffin.

Bernard never left a real legacy at middleweight other than owning the record for most title defenses. Hopkins doesn't have a memorable win over an establish middle weight or weights the way Roy does. Hopkins has Tito and DLH (two WelterWeights) as his most important wins and a win over Tarver (who was overhyped for beating an shot RJJ and . While that is no easy feat it still pales in comparison to what Roy did all the way up to Heavy Weight.

Prime Roy Jones would beat Hopkins at any point of Hopkins career and I would love to hear the logic behind anyone who thinks to the contrary.

[Rane-Ex54]

Left2body. I agree, in both there primes I think RJJ would win a decision bewteen the two, but as far as career's & greatness, I still believe BHOP has a better one. He has more classic fights, decisions, brawls, & has never been beaten up or KTFO in the ring. Personally he's had to deal with more adversity in boxing also. To me RJJ did great things but took one alot of loser fights, I wish he fought someone else for his heavyweight title. Come on John Ruiz!!

[Knicksman20]

Jones is better. When they both fought back in 93 they both were up & coming fighters in the top 5 of the division at the time. So Hopkins was green is no excuse for him losing to Jones at the time. As far as Jones not being able to come back from defeat or dealing with adversity; look what he did to Montel Griffin in the second fight or how he dug out the win in the first fight with Tarver. Hopkins is definitely one of the best fighters but Jones was better; you know this by the standards he was held to & the expectations people had for him. Hokins wasn't really held to the same standard that people had for Jones.

[Rane-Ex54]

And although tito & ODLH were blown up welters, they proved themselves as worthy middleweights & benard knocked them both out! No one still has done that to either of them.

[Rane-Ex54]

Jones is better. When they both fought back in 93 they both were up & coming fighters in the top 5 of the division at the time. So Hopkins was green is no excuse for him losing to Jones at the time. As far as Jones not being able to come back from defeat or dealing with adversity; look what he did to Montel Griffin in the second fight or how he dug out the win in the first fight with Tarver. Hopkins is definitely one of the best fighters but Jones was better; you know this by the standards he was held to & the expectations people had for him. Hokins wasn't really held to the same standard that people had for Jones.

I wouldn't say he really "lost" that first fight with Griffin, it was DQ. And the First Tarver fight is kind of irrelevant when he got his ass beat the next two times verse him. This is a good arguement. I just think BHOP has a better legacy.