Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: Deontay Wilder Has 2 or 3 Years Left in Career

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lol

the aj fanboys out in full force...comparing a comment from barry hearn(who is in contact with finkel) to something wilders mother hypothetically said....lol....this cant be real life

AJ fans are out in force?? There's only about 4 of us on this thread. It's the Americans who are out in force like always twisting AJ's words because they're poisonous little *****es who want to smear him at all cost. So you're wrong about that as well. Is there anything you idiots say that has any substance or truth to it? Or is it all just lies and poison?

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Joshua actually has a worthy resume, Wilder doesn't. Wilder's whole career has been nothing but talk. When he fights his bums, he still struggles with them. Can you imagine what Joshua is going to do to him? Wilder isn't cut out for this level, we already know this.

Wilder won't fight unless he gets half, do you think that's fair considering Joshua brings all the money to the table while Wilder brings none?

Sid-Knee, You and I see this from opposing viewpoints, and I respect your opinion; however, as I've stated on previous threads, I cannot see how AJ can possibly survive Wilder's punching power. Now if they ever fight, AJ may well prove me to be wrong; however, I'll have to see it to believe it. And I think that any fight will be a very long time coming (if ever). AJ simply doesn't want to find out how life changing Wilder's power is. And I know that I would not either. I just had a close relative die from what everybody believed to be a minor head injury. My neighbor's ex had a minor head injury just last month, and he'll never be coherent again. My brother-in-law recently had a classmate who received a "bump" on the head and he also died from it. So what I'm saying is that getting tagged (repeatedly) by Wilder's power isn't a joke, and unfortunately, I fully expect that someday some opponent of his will wind up like Magomed Abdusalamov or perhaps even die from blows received in the ring. And I believe that this is a realistic concern of AJ as well as Eddie Hearn. Right now they know that AJ isn't ready to face Wilder - hence no fight. AJ's defense certainly won't keep Wilder from teeing off on AJ, and his offense isn't going to prevent it either. And until AJ and company find a way to change that, there will be no fight between AJ and Wilder. Presently it appears that Eddie Hearn is stalling for time to let Wilder grow old or get injured or even retire. Just keep pushing that fight further back - any excuse will do. Now that's my take, and if Wilder beats Fury and Hearn doesn't actively pursue (under honorable terms - not insulting terms) a 2019 fight with Wilder, then my su****ions will be confirmed. And if I'm wrong, then we will all be happy as the fight will be made.

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Joshua using the old Mayweather tactic of waiting till they get till he fights them.

Even got the same lines, "I'm the A-side" and making unrealistic demands, then when the other side agree he makes more demands.


The Floyd Mayweather Legacy.

What unrealistic demand is Joshua making? Wilder is the one being unrealistic. He wants a rematch clause as the B side even though that's never happened before. And he wants 50% even though he brings no money to the table. For you believe the rubbish you just wrote is astonishing.

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Then why can't Joshua just keep Deontay's name out of his mouth man? It's very obvious and clear to everyone that Wilder is no longer interested in him and has decided to move on but AJ's fragile ego just won't let it go by saying he is looking past Povetkin and is looking to make a knockout statement. It sounds to me that someone is missing the limelight. I promise you that Wilder/Fury breaks more box office and pay per view records than the Joshua vs Povetkin bout; Which hasn't even sold out as of yet. There are still several tickets remaining.

Joshua mentions Wilder for the first time in weeks means he can't keep his name out of his mouth? You really are a weirdo aren't you. Get out of here with this deranged bull****.

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I guess Aquajuice (AJ) won't be fighting Wilder until 2021.

Even though he called him out for the April date?

You Americans are ****ing crazy and deranged. It's scary reading the madness you write. You need serious help over there. This is not normal behaviour.

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at least he's down to throw down. AJ has become a diva over nite

Joshua has shown he's down by the opponents he's fought in 21 fights. Wilder hasn't by fighting bums for 40 fights. ****ing dreadful, man.

And Wilder refuses to fight unless he gets half. He's pricing himself out because he knows once Joshua has finished with him, he's going to be making less than he already is. And he's getting paid **** all as it is.

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Anthony as much as I respect your boxing insight on this site I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment. What originally made AJ the A side in the negotiations? His titles or his drawing power? I say that it was the latter.

However, Wilder has a chance of eclipsing AJ as the A side come December if he sells a massive amount of Pay per views globally. He would then become a global icon sensation over night.

So is this about titles or money? If it's about titles then yes I would agree. He needs AJ in order to become the undisputed heavyweight champion but if it comes down to money; Not so much because Wilder is slowly becoming a global superstar in his own right.

So I can promise you that his fight with Tyson Fury would out sell and do a lot better at the box office than Joshua's mandatory with Povetkin.

Wilder doesn't make anything outside of a Fury, Joshua or Whyte fight. To claim he'll be the A side soon is nothing but delusion on your part. But I knew this madness was coming because Americans are beyond deranged. You're sick in the head big time. What money Wilder makes against Fury isn't the norm as you well know. That isn't Wilder's worth in the market.

Wilder is becoming a global superstar?????? Get help, and quick.

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Not lately though; They have been constantly talking about their upcoming fight. It's AJ who is making these asinine comments like: "I am looking past Povetkin because I am going for the big guns now". Also, when he says "Go out there and take out Povetkin, like I would do with any other opponent and lastly, "Go in there, and have fun – don't be cautious because it's ruining my aggressive style,". It sounds to me that Joshua's own insecurities are getting the best of him. Wilder is on his mind as he watches his profile lose some shine from Deontay Wilder's new found limelight.

Wilder is still a nobody. He won't reach Joshua levels at any point in his career. It's laughable you think so.

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Got it. When Joshua fought Breazeale and Whyte a few years ago, they weren’t ranked in the top 10 at the time. When he fought Wladimir, he was inactive for over 1 & 1/2 years and no longer ranked and 41 years old. When he fought Eric Molina, Wilder had already stopped him prior. When he fought Charles Martin, he won the title from a guy who got a vacant title after his opponent got injured. When he fought Takam, he had already lost to Parker and was stopped by Povetkin.

Technically Joshua has fought (2) ranked fighters in the top ten his ENTIRE CAREER, Takam and Parker.

Wilder beat Stiverne who was a champion that actually won the title without an opponent getting injured. He stopped Chris Arreola in a rematch for the WBC title who had only actually lost to (2) other fighters besides Stiverne at the time, Vitali & Adamek. Wilder also beat Molina when he was actually ranked as a HW, beat Szpilka who only had (1) lost to Bryan Jennings. He beat Luis Ortiz who was the 4th ranked HW at the time.

So let me ask you. Based on all of these FACTS that can be verified, who has fought more bums again? Know your boxing before you come at me fool. Go hard or go home!!!!

I'm not surprised you'd question Joshua's resume, you Americans are crazy like that. Joshua has taken the correct steps thus far in his career. I mean, how many Heavyweights in history have this type of resume after 21 fights? Exactly!

Wilder beat Stiverne who fought for a vacant title against a bum in Arreola. Please don't make that win to be anything it's not, it's silly. None of the other fighters were ranked in the top 10, so stop with the lies, yeah. Joshua has a much better resume. To pretend otherwise is ******. Wlad was still the number 1 in the division after Fury stepped out. Anyone with a brain agrees. To try and claim a load of bums are better than who Joshua has fought is nothing but madness. So yeah, I think you should go home. It's for the best. You sound like an idiot.

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They both are gonna have L's before 2020 or at least one of them will & the fight won't be as big when they aren't undefeated HW title holders.

If Barry legit thinks this fight will be bigger in 2020 he's being silly. Well I mean I guess if he thinks both guys keep winning then he's not wrong, but these guys are both HIGHLY beatable & I can't seem them both winning their next 3 fights to have this super fight in 2020.

And I'm not "merging together" anything. I'm saying its funny Barry said what he's said about when he wants this fight to happen & what Joshua is saying about Wilder being done around that same time.

If they've shared these remarks with each other who f#cking knows or cares. But there seems to be a narrative with what these two are saying with what I feel Hearn's strategy is with Joshua not fighting maybe the most risky fight out there for him today.

And thats a shame cuz I think Hearn is one of the best in the game, but I think he's way too concerned with Joshua losing & what that may or may not mean towards making max money with him & getting enough residual attention for Matchroom via Joshua's mainstream appeal. Hearn is playing the Joshua promotional game differently than he plays the other Matchroom fighters promotional game. And thats not how he's gotten where he's gotten by playing safe with his quality guys. People wanna see quality fights & if he's soft playing Joshua while avoiding Joshua's biggest threats...unless he gots dibs on the guy, but then again I think Whyte has like a 10% chance to beat Joshua in a rematch so idek about that all the way.

Doesn't matter, what Barry says has nothing to do with Joshua.

And yes, the fight will happen when Wilder stops pricing himself out. It's delusional to think he's worth half of the money. He can't sell tickets, and outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua he isn't making more than he usually does. To think otherwise is deranged.