Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia: 'I Won That Fight' After Watching Porter Replay

[CubanGuyNYC]

Tell that to Floyd Mayweather in his win against Oscar. I gave Oscar like 2 MAYBE 3 rounds. Ineffective Aggression 101.

There is ineffective aggression and effective aggression. Effective agression gets a read and Porter wasn't effective a lot. He was mostly ineffective. When you're getting caught clean with hard power shots that disrupt what you're doing, that is scored highly for the round winner. Thats what wins rounds, power.

You have to qualify that statement. All things being equal, power wins rounds. If a fighter lands ten jabs and his opponent lands one good hook, unless there’s a knockdown, the fighter who landed more punches in the round should win. It can get real tricky when there’s a back-and-forth balance of shots landed and the perceived power in them.

I agree. Scoring a professional prizefight is a very subjective process. Most judges score quality over quantity. While it is true; Danny landed the cleaner, flashier and heavier punches of the two, yet he ate a lot of clean punches also and overall landed fewer punches than Porter too. In addition, he didn't land nearly enough of them in order to drop Porter; Let alone stun him or knock him out. To me Garcia was loading up on single haymakers at a time. While Shawn was the more more active and busier of the two with his work rate which carried the day and and ultimately won him the fight .

Although there are recognized scoring criteria (which most fans don’t seem to have a clue about), yes, judging a fight is essentially subjective. If it’s a very close fight, it’s tough to make a hard case for one fighter or the other. (See above.)

[McNulty]

You have to qualify that statement. All things being equal, power wins rounds. If a fighter lands ten jabs and his opponent lands one good hook, unless there’s a knockdown, the fighter who landed more punches in the round should win. It can get real tricky when there’s a back-and-forth balance of shots landed and the perceived power in them.

Although there are recognized scoring criteria (which most fans don’t seem to have a clue about), yes, judging a fight is essentially subjective. If it’s a very close fight, it’s tough to make a hard case for one fighter or the other. (See above.)

What if that hook puts the other guy in potholes? Come on now, get real. The hook wins, thats how it works. The cleaner harder shots score higher. No it's not subjective. There is a recognized criteria in place with tiers.

It's like no judge puts defense above effective aggression know what I'm saying? Body shots don't score higher than hooks to the face, otherwise Malignaggi would have beaten Broner.

[CubanGuyNYC]

What if that hook puts the other guy in potholes? Come on now, get real. The hook wins, thats how it works. The cleaner harder shots score higher. No it's not subjective. There is a recognized criteria in place with tiers.

It's like no judge puts defense above effective aggression know what I'm saying? Body shots don't score higher than hooks to the face, otherwise Malignaggi would have beaten Broner.

In potholes? Lol Never heard that term. Anyway, I don’t think that’s enough. In the scenario I provided, one punch, unless it puts a fighter on his ass shouldn’t be enough to outweigh ten. I don’t care if it’s a good power punch. It’s just not enough. Now, three good power punches to six jabs? I would probably award the round to the power guy. That’s where judgement comes in. And everyone has a different set of eyes. As noted before, the scoring criteria is plain, but it’s application is invariably subjective. We see it all the time.

[daggum]

What if that hook puts the other guy in potholes? Come on now, get real. The hook wins, thats how it works. The cleaner harder shots score higher. No it's not subjective. There is a recognized criteria in place with tiers.

It's like no judge puts defense above effective aggression know what I'm saying? Body shots don't score higher than hooks to the face, otherwise Malignaggi would have beaten Broner.

unless your name is floyd against pac. in that case a jab that tickles pacs nose and doesnt make him flinch is better than hard flush shots that knock his head around. or wait those check hooks with the inside of the glove(not legal) were so amazing. that made up for his lack of clean work. push off his head amazing!

[JWHardin]

OK Danny Garcia, you won the fight, ok? (In your mind at least) Get a hold of Al Haymon and line up a fight with Errol Spence next.

Reporters: Ask Danny if he is up for that fight. (He won't be)

Porter won't take a fight now that CS Thurman said he will fight Porter again after a tune up...and will continue to duck Spence. May as well have a good fight at least in Garcia vs Spence.

[rickJen]

Nothing extra special about this guy.
He clinches when the going gets tough just like when he fought Thurman.
Can't this clown fight inside and has to spoil the flow of the fight with his ****** clinching?

[Squ□redCircle34]

He was efficient for sure (his connect percentage reaffirms that). But effective? As you say, his shots did not hurt his opponent or knock him down or out. So no, not very effective (at least by my definition). He did hang in there and was composed, though. Too bad he didn't demonstrate a higher gear and output to nullify Porter's workrate.

Didn’t hurt!? Are we watching the same fight?

Danny caught Porter with a double left hook and it made him jump up then caught him with a straight right hand that wobbled him in a different stance!

Garcia landed the harder punches which is the more damaging by definition and yes he was more efficient!

He threw less than Porter obviously yes, but Danny landed authoritative shots at a higher rate per round!

It’s all about do you score for a guy who throws more and lands more in general or the guy who displays better defense and lands the more damaging blows overall?

Tough judge which it makes it all subjective!

[chicken-]

landing more shots overall isn't a huge deal when you only landed an average of 1 more shots per round. At that point, the cleaner more effe tuve punching should be taken into consideration.

Again, why are we discussing his average over an entire fight when fights are scored PER ROUND? That is completely irrelevant. He won more rounds. The end.

[Jab jab boom]

Again, why are we discussing his average over an entire fight when fights are scored PER ROUND? That is completely irrelevant. He won more rounds. The end.

no, not the end. There wasn't a huge disparity in puches landed in most rounds no matter how you slice it up. Porter threw more, garcia landed the cleaner punches. Close fight that could've went either way. Now that's the end.

[Slicc]

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