Saturday is GGG's last fight with HBO. He's open to other options.

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #81
    Originally posted by buddyr
    I live in NC. If my power goes out saturday due to this hurricane, I'll hate Canelo for the rest of my life due to him getting caught cheating and this not taking place on May 5th
    I'll not like Canelo for the rest of my life because he cheated.

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    • buddyr
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      #82
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      I'll ask again.

      "Let me ask now that I know what's happening here......what do you have against HBO? Floyd got you thinking ignorant over them? Be honest".

      ?????
      My hate for HBO has nothing to do with Mayweather for the simple fact that I don't like Mayweather either. The constant ***riding of HBO fighters. Bias from Ledderman and Lampley. Ledderman's horrible one sided cards in favor of the fighter they want the audience to believe is actually winning the fight. And this didn't just start recently, it's been going on for a very long time.

      If Al Bernstein, Farhood and crew can fall a fight up the middle, there is no excuse whatsoever for lampley and ledderman. HBO by far has the worst most biased commentary I've ever seen in all of my years of watching boxing. Not Showtime, fox, Albert/O'grady TNF, ETC.. Absolutely nothing compares to Lampley's "big right hand" for punches missed.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        I'll ask again.

        "Let me ask now that I know what's happening here......what do you have against HBO? Floyd got you thinking ignorant over them? Be honest".

        ?????
        I haven't said a bad thing about HBO. I'm asking a simple question. Name the top 5 fighters in every division and every one is with a promoter with their own deal or in the WBSS except GGG/Canelo/Jacobs.

        I'm asking where are all these fighters you're talking about? You still haven't answered that question.

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          #84
          Originally posted by buddyr
          My hate for HBO has nothing to do with Mayweather for the simple fact that I don't like Mayweather either. The constant ***riding of HBO fighters. Bias from Ledderman and Lampley. Ledderman's horrible one sided cards in favor of the fighter they want the audience to believe is actually winning the fight. And this didn't just start recently, it's been going on for a very long time.

          If Al Bernstein, Farhood and crew can fall a fight up the middle, there is no excuse whatsoever for lampley and ledderman. HBO by far has the worst most biased commentary I've ever seen in all of my years of watching boxing. Not Showtime, fox, Albert/O'grady TNF, ETC.. Absolutely nothing compares to Lampley's "big right hand" for punches missed.
          Ha ha ha who the f@ck was talking to you?

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            #85
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            I haven't said a bad thing about HBO. I'm asking a simple question. Name the top 5 fighters in every division and every one is with a promoter with their own deal or in the WBSS except GGG/Canelo/Jacobs.

            I'm asking where are all these fighters you're talking about? You still haven't answered that question.
            So, somewhere deep in your mind, you think that's a simple question that I'll devote hours of my time to answer? Get real.

            I answered exactly what you asked and then you know you're bested and then change the question.

            It really comes down to your hate of HBO. And it's clear. I didn't catch it right away, but I picked up on why we were having a useless conversation about your original response to a general observation and comment I made so now I'm asking you the real important question here.

            Why the agenda against HBO? Give the real story and we'll be real about it. Give truth a shot.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              So, somewhere deep in your mind, you think that's a simple question that I'll devote hours of my time to answer? Get real.

              I answered exactly what you asked and then you know you're bested and then change the question.

              It really comes down to your hate of HBO. And it's clear. I didn't catch it right away, but I picked up on why we were having a useless conversation about your original response to a general observation and comment I made so now I'm asking you the real important question here.

              Why the agenda against HBO? Give the real story and we'll be real about it. Give truth a shot.
              You haven't named one fighter. You're filibustering. Give me the fighters and their promoters that will get HBO back in the game

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #87
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                You haven't named one fighter. You're filibustering. Give me the fighters and their promoters that will get HBO back in the game
                Ok, so you decline to answer the real question. Got it.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by S7V7N
                  The BJS fight was booked for the forum. What, you expect GGG v Vanes to sell it out in 3 weeks? He also fought Wade & Monroe there & both were sell-outs. Hadn't fought at the Stub Hub in 4 years while selling out Madison Square multiple times, O2 & T-Mobile. Sheesh, that's one high standard!
                  The Forum seats 17500 people, according to Wikipedia; staging that same building for 11000 seats and applauding that isn't the same thing.

                  No one was saying that Vanes was supposed to sell out, but this is The Big Drama Show, right?

                  After headlining 4 fights in California, and being this star that you want to argue, K2/Loeffler should've been able to head to their home building on the West Coast and easily put 7k-9k into the full 17k-seat Forum with a full month to push the event.

                  Golovkin put something like 14k into the building the last time, right?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by buddyr
                    I live in NC. If my power goes out saturday due to this hurricane, I'll hate Canelo for the rest of my life due to him getting caught cheating and this not taking place on May 5th
                    Yo, kidding aside, stay safe

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      If deflecting means sh.itting on your entire theory that Golovkin isn’t a draw with facts then yeah I’m deflecting

                      Just wondering since Golovkin is such a disappointment what fighters would you consider to be a success as far building their brand in the last 5 years in the US market
                      -Errol Spence Jr has built his profile since the 2012 Olympics to the point that Jerry Jones bet 9000 full-priced tickets on him (and ended up making the money back on the sale of those seats).

                      -Andre Ward, even with the long layoff, was able to build his profile to the point that he was strong in his home market (don't have the figures in hand, but fairly certain Ward was near/over $1m gates for his last 3 fights in Oakland) and Vegas was starting to open for him.

                      -Danny Garcia basically helped rebuild Brooklyn as a boxing market, while also drawing well in Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and Puerto Rico.

                      -Deontay basically is boxing in Alabama.

                      -Mikey Garcia is basically the biggest drawing Mexican American fighter in the country, drawing in New York, Texas, and California.

                      -Terence Crawford is gold in Omaha/Nebraska, with the reach starting to break through beyond that.

                      Could go on if you want.

                      Gennady Golovkin was an Olympic silver medalist, and actually had the makings of a real fighter from the bit I've seen of his time in Germany.

                      Get someone to help him get more conversational in English, but that wasn't a bad point to build from.

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