Saturday is GGG's last fight with HBO. He's open to other options.

[jaded]

Imagine he knocks canelo out and signs with showtime. Hbo would officially be dead

The problem is if he DOESN'T KO Canelo...who will be staying with HBO for sure then the judging will be stacked against him even worse now. The commentary bias will be crazy...the whole HBO team will be saying how old he looks and how much sharper Canelo is and he'll get a lop-sided decision over GGG even if he gets his ass handed to him all night long. I really hope GGG takes him out otherwise it may be a terrible robbery.

[MDPopescu]

He should sign with DAZN like Usyk just did.

... for what?... for Jacobs, Groves?...

I guess that after getting above $20 million this Saturday, GGG will be little motivated to fight again for $5 million...

[Curt Henning]

And that's why HBO is rooting for Canelo. And one of HBO's former employee's is a judge for this fight. GGG knows he has to get the KO and that's why I think he's vulnerable in this fight. I've never seen GGG under so much pressure and as rattled as he is coming into this fight. My money is on Canelo thi fight

i like canelo too...and thats where im betting

agreed that this is fodder for golovkins fans to claim robbery should he lose a decision...

[S7V7N]

The Forum seats 17500 people, according to Wikipedia; staging that same building for 11000 seats and applauding that isn't the same thing.

No one was saying that Vanes was supposed to sell out, but this is The Big Drama Show, right?

After headlining 4 fights in California, and being this star that you want to argue, K2/Loeffler should've been able to head to their home building on the West Coast and easily put 7k-9k into the full 17k-seat Forum with a full month to push the event.

Golovkin put something like 14k into the building the last time, right?

For Monroe there was only 12,600 seat available since it was GGG's first fight there. (similar to less seats available at Stub-Hub until they brought bleachers out last time, increasing the seating above capicity).
"The historic Inglewood arena’s 12,600-seat configuration for boxing."

They reconfigure the stadium for boxing since it's a center ring, not a stage on one end like a concert. They also add tables for all the press, so the floor seating simply doesn't accommodate what it could for other events.

Here's a video showing the layout prior to the Monroe fight.


Compare that to how a concert looks.


Then against Wade they added more seats. Why I included links to both fights so you could do the reading & find out the reasons if you're really so interested.

Don't really care what he sells/makes myself. Simply saying that he does fill up the places he fights no matter what the names are...given enough time to promote.

[Manlikefemi]

Gennadys built Up his profile Enough I would guess he goes independent since he’s already set up his own promo company and just whatever future fights he has left goes to the platform that generates him the most $ without being tied down


The MW division is fragmented with basically the top 4-5 guys after Gennady all on different platforms

HBO - Canelo maybe But probably
Not Jacobs in the future

DAZN - Andrade probably Jacobs

PBC - Charlo

Espn /TR - Murata

Saunders is with Warren and seems to be able
To go to whatever US network they choose

If Gennady leaves HBO put another nail in their coffin. They might not re-up on Kov for the rematch l. They basically will have Canelo and the Superfly division which is a who gives a sh.it division

Again how does Nelson still have a job ?

Nelson has been instructed by his bosses at HBO to wind it down. You can tell by their budget, HBO Boxing is shutting up shop.

[R_Walken]

-Errol Spence Jr has built his profile since the 2012 Olympics to the point that Jerry Jones bet 9000 full-priced tickets on him (and ended up making the money back on the sale of those seats).

-Andre Ward, even with the long layoff, was able to build his profile to the point that he was strong in his home market (don't have the figures in hand, but fairly certain Ward was near/over $1m gates for his last 3 fights in Oakland) and Vegas was starting to open for him.

-Danny Garcia basically helped rebuild Brooklyn as a boxing market, while also drawing well in Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and Puerto Rico.

-Deontay basically is boxing in Alabama.

-Mikey Garcia is basically the biggest drawing Mexican American fighter in the country, drawing in New York, Texas, and California.

-Terence Crawford is gold in Omaha/Nebraska, with the reach starting to break through beyond that.

Could go on if you want.

Gennady Golovkin was an Olympic silver medalist, and actually had the makings of a real fighter from the bit I've seen of his time in Germany.

Get someone to help him get more conversational in English, but that wasn't a bad point to build from.

Please do go on because everything you wrote is f.ucking ******ed


I think you’re a good poster but this topic you look ******

Gennady has his American debut under 6 years ago until then he was a unknown commodity

So use that time frame as a reference when talking about Boxers building brands that are near or further ahead then golovkin

For the most part every fighter you mentioned Im a fan of but you must be smoking crack rocks on the regular if you think they’re brands are bigger then Gennadys

Ward out of the conversation besides the fact he won the Super 6 in 2011 and has had a decade plus to build his profile , he can sell in 1 market ( Oakland ) and his Big career PPV ls did what Golovkin did against Lemiuex so no his brand isn’t as big or ever was bigger then Golovkin

Errol Spence has had 1 decent attendance in his home state and 1 decent attendance in Brooklyn and 1 good Rating following the US basketball gold medal game l. He’s still unknown among any casuals. He’s not even close to be on The same level as far as Gennadys brand . Get the f.uck out of here with that

Danny Garcia - huge fan of his , One of my favourites but he sells well in Brooklyn that’s it has no PPV and isn’t known among casuals and been in the spotlight longer then Gennady so no he isn’t on Gennadys level either

Wilder - The face of boxing in Alabama , are you joking ? He’s fought there once in how many years he sell ls in Brooklyn and yes he has good ratings and the Fury fight is a PPV and I hope it does well right now he isn’t on the same level as Gennady he has a great chance of being there and surpassing him in the future but right now he’s not there

Crawford may be gold in Nebraska but he’s worthless everywhere else. His Vegas attendances are Ok and his 1 PPV he sold 40k ( me included ) so no he isn’t anywhere near the brand of Golovkin l. The guy has 200k Instagram followers and 100k on twitter not really the numbers of a fighter casual fans give a sh.it about again his only PPV did 40k

Mikey’s the man and has sold in all the places you mentioned, but his ratings haven’t been spectacular with the exception of The Broner fight and has no PPVs to his credit so no he isn’t anywhere near Gennadys brand

You claim Gennady is a disappointment as far as his brand /profile but every fighter you’ve mentioned is below Gennady and in some cases many levels below Gennady as far as brand /profile

My favourite line of this pile of hateful sh.it post is when you said he had the making of a real fighter

I guess ruling your division for years , being among the P4P best for years , selling out arenas being the B-side to the biggest selling PPV not
Involving Mayweather in what like over a decade , having millions of followers on his social networks doesn’t qualify as being a real fighter

[R_Walken]

Nelson has been instructed by his bosses at HBO to wind it down. You can tell by their budget, HBO Boxing is shutting up shop.

Cool and that maybe the case

But to say he hasnt done a horrible job at the helm of boxing on the network also isn’t being truthful to the situation

[S7V7N]

Please do go on because everything you wrote is f.ucking ******ed


I think you’re a good poster but this topic you look ******

Gennady has his American debut under 6 years ago until then he was a unknown commodity

So use that time frame as a reference when talking about Boxers building brands that are near or further ahead then golovkin

For the most part every fighter you mentioned Im a fan of but you must be smoking crack rocks on the regular if you think they’re brands are bigger then Gennadys

Ward out of the conversation besides the fact he won the Super 6 in 2011 and has had a decade plus to build his profile , he can sell in 1 market ( Oakland ) and his Big career PPV ls did what Golovkin did against Lemiuex so no his brand isn’t as big or ever was bigger then Golovkin

Errol Spence has had 1 decent attendance in his home state and 1 decent attendance in Brooklyn and 1 good Rating following the US basketball gold medal game l. He’s still unknown among any casuals. He’s not even close to be on The same level as far as Gennadys brand . Get the f.uck out of here with that

Danny Garcia - huge fan of his , One of my favourites but he sells well in Brooklyn that’s it has no PPV and isn’t known among casuals and been in the spotlight longer then Gennady so no he isn’t on Gennadys level either

Wilder - The face of boxing in Alabama , are you joking ? He’s fought there once in how many years he sell ls in Brooklyn and yes he has good ratings and the Fury fight is a PPV and I hope it does well right now he isn’t on the same level as Gennady he has a great chance of being there and surpassing him in the future but right now he’s not there

Crawford may be gold in Nebraska but he’s worthless everywhere else. His Vegas attendances are Ok and his 1 PPV he sold 40k ( me included ) so no he isn’t anywhere near the brand of Golovkin l. The guy has 200k Instagram followers and 100k on twitter not really the numbers of a fighter casual fans give a sh.it about again his only PPV did 40k

Mikey’s the man and has sold in all the places you mentioned, but his ratings haven’t been spectacular with the exception of The Broner fight and has no PPVs to his credit so no he isn’t anywhere near Gennadys brand

My favourite line of this pile of hateful sh.it post is when you said he had the making of a real fighter

I guess ruling your division for years , being among the P4P best for years , selling out arenas being the B-side to the biggest selling PPV not
Involving Mayweather in what like over a decade , having millions of followers on his social networks doesn’t qualify as being a real fighter

Great post, but feel you missed one key point...

all these fighters are American, like who should have the advantage here?

Yet a fk'n Kazakh out-sells them all!

[R_Walken]

Great post, but feel you missed one key point...

all these fighters are American, like who should have the advantage here?

Yet a fk'n Kazakh out-sells them all!

Thanks

I somewhat agree you’d think Americans would have a built In advantage I don’t know if that’s the case . Mayweather Got the attention because of playing the heel, Americans aren’t like the UK and will automatically embrace one of their own

Mexicans or Mexican-Americans have a built
In audience everyone else it’s a tough climb to get recognized but think for a 30 year old unknown Kazak to come to the States and build his profile like Gennady did was a great accomplishment and credit should be given to His team and Gennadynfor putting in the work to be known

The one advantage I think a Gennady has on his side is he’s White ( or close Enough ) that makes
Him more palatable to a wider audience l. But Gennady and his team have put in the work to increase brand more boxers should take note

[TonyGe]

Problem with fighters no being able to build their brand is mainly due to no network TV coverage. At least in Canada I don't see boxing on any free television.