Saturday is GGG's last fight with HBO. He's open to other options.

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  • KTFOKING
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    #21
    It doesn't matter, if Golovkin wins he is just fighting on PPV the rest of his career. He doesn't need to sign with any network, just do one fight deals. Golovkin will be coming off a win in a fight with over a million buys and will probably only be fighting for another two years or so. The type of money he will want won't be accommodated on SHO or ESPN.

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    • daggum
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mammoth
      That could be. There is more on the line for Golovkin here. I think he's made of sterner stuff than Kovalev and I hope he isn't honestly expecting to knock Canelo out. That's not happening.
      you don't truly know what a man is made of until he's low blowed over and over. how does he handle this adverstity?

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      • R_Walken
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        #23
        Gennadys built Up his profile Enough I would guess he goes independent since he’s already set up his own promo company and just whatever future fights he has left goes to the platform that generates him the most $ without being tied down


        The MW division is fragmented with basically the top 4-5 guys after Gennady all on different platforms

        HBO - Canelo maybe But probably
        Not Jacobs in the future

        DAZN - Andrade probably Jacobs

        PBC - Charlo

        Espn /TR - Murata

        Saunders is with Warren and seems to be able
        To go to whatever US network they choose

        If Gennady leaves HBO put another nail in their coffin. They might not re-up on Kov for the rematch l. They basically will have Canelo and the Superfly division which is a who gives a sh.it division

        Again how does Nelson still have a job ?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          From the sounds of it Win or Lose GGG isn't sticking around for the death of HBO boxing.
          I've been saying it for some time now, but it's becoming even more clear; HBO is going to simply be The Canelo Alvarez Show, with Golden Boy Promotions being the house promoter.

          Saul Alvarez, Ryan Garcia, Joseph Diaz Jr, David Lemieux, Jason Quigley, Diego De La Hoya, Jaime Munguia (Oscar hopes), Vergil Ortiz Jr, and likely a few other young guys.

          Alvarez will fight his two PPVs a year, and HBO/Golden Boy will leverage the Canelo money to come up with another 5-8 shows (Canelo draws 1.5m buys for his two PPVs, and you're basically at HBO getting $10m as their share, which can then finance 5 $2m rights fee cards).

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            It's not even an option at HBO, is it? I know Loeffler does the Superfly series but are those even K2 fighters?
            Kazuto Ioka is signed to 360, Loeffler's company.

            HBO may not offer 360 a ton of non-GGG dates, but they offer him a couple. Can he do better elsewhere? Maybe not. History teaches us though that the promoter will leverage his fighter to benefit himself, not the fighter. So GGG's deal with HBO being up may be irrelevant. If his deal with Loeffler was up, that'd be a different story.

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              #26
              Originally posted by daggum
              you don't truly know what a man is made of until he's low blowed over and over. how does he handle this adverstity?
              How can you cry for this long? Did Ward hump you and dump you or something?

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                #27
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Wherever Loeffler takes him, he'll want dates for his other fighters. Would that be an option at Showtime? Probably not. Would that be an option at ESPN? Probably not. Would that be an option at DAZN? Probably not.
                What other fighters does Loeffler/K2 have though? Golovkin, Braekhus, and Usyk seem to be it.

                Do you earnestly think that Eddie Hearn wouldn't co-promote to get those three (Usyk-Bellew and Usyk versus Hearn's heavyweights, Braekhus vs Katie Taylor, Golovkin vs Andrade, Golovkin vs Fowler/Buatsi, etc)?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by R_Walken

                  Again how does Nelson still have a job ?
                  Because he's a former member of the media and he boxing media still protects him. He has the job they all wish they had. The boxing media doesn't know **** about the business of boxing. All you have to do is look at their predictions about PBC/Haymon to see that. They had no idea what the hell they were talking about. From the lawsuits to TV deal. They were criticizing Espinoza when PBC started and speculated about his job being on the line. With Nelson they've pushed that lie that the budget would increase once HBO was sold. Well the deal went thru and looks like the budget decreased. There s a lot of collusion in the boxing media. Those Golden Boy emails proved that. And the boxing media pushed that story out of the headlines quick and tried to absolve Golden Boy of any responsibility. I think they were really scared that their emails would be leaked.


                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Saul Alvarez, Ryan Garcia, Joseph Diaz Jr, David Lemieux, Jason Quigley, Diego De La Hoya, Jaime Munguia (Oscar hopes), Vergil Ortiz Jr, and likely a few other young guys.
                  But most of those guys are fighting on facebook

                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  History teaches us though that the promoter will leverage his fighter to benefit himself, not the fighter. So GGG's deal with HBO being up may be irrelevant. If his deal with Loeffler was up, that'd be a different story.
                  Yep. We saw that with Kathy Duva. She turned down a purse bid even though Kovalev didn't have a deal with HBO at the moment.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Do you earnestly think that Eddie Hearn wouldn't co-promote to get those three (Usyk-Bellew and Usyk versus Hearn's heavyweights, Braekhus vs Katie Taylor, Golovkin vs Andrade, Golovkin vs Fowler/Buatsi, etc)?
                    Hearn would do it, but it'd be a last resort for Loeffler. If GGG beats Canelo, Loeffler will want to leverage that for all it's worth. His best bet would still be keeping GGG at HBO if he can keep getting some dates from HBO. If HBO won't pony up, sure you try to use DAZN to create some leverage. But Loeffler created 360 in hopes he could take more control at HBO if he can get Canelo knocked off. Hearn will never give the kind of control Loeffler is hoping he can get at HBO.

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                      #30
                      He should sign with DAZN like Usyk just did.

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