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  • Deus
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    #151
    Originally posted by nick_viking
    Officially, Joyce is roughly the same size, 6ft 6in and around 235lbs. Judging by his pro record so far he has good power too, and I think his engine could be superior to Joshua’s.

    That said Joshua’s frame is bigger, I think he hits harder and is a better overall talent. But Usyk would give Joshua fits, as you say the movement, feints and twitches are several levels above Parker’s who confused him.

    The only question mark for me is if Usyk can keep up his workrate at the higher weight, or if Joshua etc can wear him down over 12 rounds. Usyk’s stamina at cruiser was superb, so if he carries that up to heavy then I think he’ll beat the lot.
    That's true, but you've got to feel that Joshua wouldn't be remotely worried about what Usyk could do to him as although Usyk is on another level to most technically he's nowhere near the top at cruiserweight in terms of power.

    My expectation is that Usyk confuses Joshua for a few rounds but Joshua would just blitz him at some stage. Joshua throws fast, powerful punches and if he's not scared of what Usyk can throw at him he'd do his upmost to make the bout a brawl and there would only ever be one winner in that situation.

    A Wilder fight would be exactly the same, maybe even Povetkin and Ortiz in my opinion.

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    • nick_viking
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      #152
      Originally posted by Deus
      That's true, but you've got to feel that Joshua wouldn't be remotely worried about what Usyk could do to him as although Usyk is on another level to most technically he's nowhere near the top at cruiserweight in terms of power.

      My expectation is that Usyk confuses Joshua for a few rounds but Joshua would just blitz him at some stage. Joshua throws fast, powerful punches and if he's not scared of what Usyk can throw at him he'd do his upmost to make the bout a brawl and there would only ever be one winner in that situation.

      A Wilder fight would be exactly the same, maybe even Povetkin and Ortiz in my opinion.
      I get your point, Usyk doesn’t have the power to worry Joshua, so he might just walk through him but it would be intriguing for sure - Usyk would need to be on top of his game for 12 rounds, but I could see him doing it.

      I’d love to see him in with Wilder too - that’s pretty much the ultimate boxer vs puncher contest.

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      • Oshio
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        #153
        Usyk should take it slowly. His desire to get a payday may just affect his career

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        • Oshio
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          #154
          Usyk should take it slowly. His desire to get a payday may just affect his career...

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          • Randall Cunning
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            #155
            Originally posted by Oshio
            Usyk should take it slowly. His desire to get a payday may just affect his career
            I think he will, I doubt Joshua will be one of his 3 fights hes initially signed up for. Where's he going to go that's better? At least 2 of the first 3 fights will be UK PPVs. He'll be re-upping. Also, I cant believe he'll move up without making a serious attempt at getting Ward out of retirement

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            • Southpawology
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              #156
              Usyk is a REAL champion. Daring to be great taking on risks.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #157
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                Is this a joke? Exactly WHO has Usyk beaten to be considered for P4P #1 status?
                Homie, he cleaned out the 4 best CW's in the world. All of whom I consider to be really good boxers. IMO Usyk is the real deal and a problem for any HWT if he can take the power shots.

                You may disagree but Glowacki, Hunter, Huck, Breidis and Gassiev all since Sept 2016 deserves respect. IMO arguably the best resume since 2016 of any fighter in the world.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  He is absolutely the real deal, but I don't think this is to have him avoid Joshua. Hearn needs as many good fighters as possible and because he can't get the big name guys in the states, he has to do the next best thing. And Usyk is a guy who can potentially fight multiple fighters in his stable. Bellew is the obvious one, then you have as you mentioned the likes of Chisora/Whyte/Joshua/etc.

                  Usyk would be by far the most skilled HW, but that doesn't mean the bigger guys like Joshua would't be able to beat him. Usyk isn't impossible to hit and he may not have the pop to hold the likes of Joshua or Wilder off of him. He took a flush shot or two from Gassiev, but his chin isn't Toney-esque or anything. Not yet ready to crown him in the HW division.
                  I meant it will delay the AJ/Wilder fight because I believe Usyk will get a fight with AJ before Wilder.

                  He does have some good opponents for Usyk to fight. Might even make me order the DAZN app.

                  I agree- it all comes down to if he can take the power shots. If he can, then IMO his skill is too much for anyone unless Wilder suddenly learned how to fight like Hearns-which ain't happening lol.

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