Comments Thread For: PBC Names Barclays Center as Official East Coast Venue

[Butch.McRae]

What about that talk made you have so much confidence in PBC?

And randomly what do you do that you are talking to UFC guys if I can ask? Recall you mentioning some other stuff with real ppl & players in the business before, but idr if you mentioned the context of it or not or if I just forgot.

I am a corporate lawyer (general, but I'm primarily focused in Private Equity). I have a JD/MBA from a top NY school.

I was in Vegas on a trip affiliated with my school network where I had the chance to talk with both Fertitta and Epstein. After those talks (which focused around the early time buys by Zuffa, dealing with the NSAC, and refining the UFC business model), I knew that PBC was actually ahead of the curve in terms of its potential as a combat sports property. (I talked about this with you a bit in the past)

My assumption was based on the roster, the attendance numbers, and the ratings (data points) they had collected across all those random channels. People thought Al was being silly by putting the fights everywhere. It was actually the opposite. He was proving that boxing has a committed core of fans. It was more genius in that than many here realize. A lot of people in TV had no idea.

After that, all he had to do was wait for WME to finish it's UFC negotiations. PBC was getting north of a $100 million from somebody. And that's exactly what happened.

[pillowfists98]

Ha! I've seen your posts so I know you're not a troll.

On a larger note, I think people are missing the big picture here. These TV deals, site deals (Staples Center will likely come soon.), the likely merch deals, etc. are setting the stage for a significant sports property that will be worth billions of dollars in the near future.

Just ask yourself this: If UFC sold for $4 billion (after the original $150 million FOX deal) and now commands $300 million in TV rights, what will the PBC be worth in 3 or 4 years?

Current TV rights are $125 million annually today and things aren't even operating at full capacity.

Wilder, Spence, and Garcia are prime and ready to tackle the PPV front.

If they can get at least two solid (meaning 300k per event sellers), PPV fighters and build out a solid digital marketing team, we might be watching one of the greatest entreprenuerial stories in the history of sports and entertainment.

Spent years here explaining what was painfully obvious to see for anybody with a business mind. Al Haymon a true mogul. I had a long talk with a UFC exec back in January. After, I was certain that PBC was going to cash in big.

Just sounds like to me that Fox needed something to fill time after they lost the UFC and boxing is relatively cheap. Haymon was in the right spot at the right time. Good for him I guess. I don't think you can compare the UFC to PBC though because UFC has 95% of the top talent in MMA whereas boxing is much more fractured.

[Butch.McRae]

Just sounds like to me that Fox needed something to fill time after they lost the UFC and boxing is relatively cheap. Haymon was in the right spot at the right time. Good for him I guess. I don't think you can compare the UFC to PBC though because UFC has 95% of the top talent in MMA whereas boxing is much more fractured.

Boxing is more fractured but it isn't as fractured as many want to believe. PBC/Haymon has almost all of the valuable US talent. Matchroom has the same (if not, bigger) footprint in the UK.

If you look at the US market, there are maybe a dozen or so true fighters/brands that fans will follow here outside of PBC guys. GBP has two guys (Canelo and Mungia), TR has two guys (Loma and Bud), and GGG. The rest of the major names are PBC affiliates who fight on other platforms via fight deals (Jacobs and Millerl and on loan (Prograis and Farmer)

Yeah the infrastructure is different, but it's not completely apples to oranges.

[Butch.McRae]

Just sounds like to me that Fox needed something to fill time after they lost the UFC and boxing is relatively cheap. Haymon was in the right spot at the right time. Good for him I guess. I don't think you can compare the UFC to PBC though because UFC has 95% of the top talent in MMA whereas boxing is much more fractured.

Btw, of course FOX is filling a void. That was a big loss. But you are wrong, boxing is not cheap. PBC is pulling $125 million in content deals now. Top Rank is pulling about $35 million in deals.

That's big money.

[Eff Pandas]

I am a corporate lawyer (general, but I'm primarily focused in Private Equity). I have a JD/MBA from a top NY school.

I was in Vegas on a trip affiliated with my school network where I had the chance to talk with both Fertitta and Epstein. After those talks (which focused around the early time buys by Zuffa, dealing with the NSAC, and refining the UFC business model), I knew that PBC was actually ahead of the curve in terms of its potential as a combat sports property. (I talked about this with you a bit in the past)

My assumption was based on the roster, the attendance numbers, and the ratings (data points) they had collected across all those random channels. People thought Al was being silly by putting the fights everywhere. It was actually the opposite. He was proving that boxing has a committed core of fans. It was more genius in that than many here realize. A lot of people in TV had no idea.

After that, all he had to do was wait for WME to finish it's UFC negotiations. PBC was getting north of a $100 million from somebody. And that's exactly what happened.

Respect. Interesting.

Man I'd love for someone to interview Haymon. That dude talking to the public more could be good for the entire boxing landscape with his thought process & tactics.

[Pennsauken1]

Eddie Hearn is the King Of New York

[Pennsauken1]

Where is Deep Pockets?

[Noelanthony]

Great News! The Energy and the Crowd at the Barclays is always incredible especially for PBC Events, people get up on their feet and really be into the fight you can feel the energy through to Broadcast on Showtime

Get that 7th round up and the auditorium sounds like a morgue. You can hear a penny drop. With everyone in the crowd with their mouths open

[Butch.McRae]

Respect. Interesting.

Man I'd love for someone to interview Haymon. That dude talking to the public more could be good for the entire boxing landscape with his thought process & tactics.

No doubt! The book will be a must-read if he ever writes it.

Would love for that black man to talk about his process. Few men have been so successful.

[Motorcity Cobra]

They must have offered them a lot of money. I wish they'd fight in Florida or Atlanta some.

I don't understand why Atlanta doesn't get big fights. Large black population with money in Atlanta. The regional ratings are always good. Broner talked about fighting there after his fight with Granados. Not sure why he didn't do it. A Broner card with Tank would sell out in Atlanta.