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  • Madison Boxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by pillowfists98
    So all the fighters that Crawford beat at 140 were scrubs?? He may have made them look like scrubs but they were good fighters just the same. That just shows you the talent level.
    im sorry man they werent much good imo, just look how theyve done since crawford left im not having it that every single one of them crumbled mentally. weve seen diaz lose to a bum, postol got dropped by some nobody and then lsot to a relative novice and then prograis destroyed indongo. Im not saying crawford sucks, i think hes a world level fighter but im not rating him as high as everyone else. Lets remember broner took a similar path up to welter and people were so sure that he was the next mayweather. Whos to say crawford doesnt fold if spence puts some pressure on him? U just dont know the full capability of a fighter until they are in with someone world classs.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by DramaShow
      monroe was ranked a lot higher than benavidez i bet. and it wasnt as if ggg had other fighters in his division which he wasnt interested in order to pursue them types of fights. how many good fighters are there at welter? if crawford grew some bollocks and told arum he wasnt signing a new deal then he opens himself up to ALL of them. His crap resume is from his own choice, fair play to him cause hes getting easy paydays for beating guys he doesnt have to get out of 2nd gear against and you guys lap it up, you love these exhibition bouts. Its like some addiction for you guys, watching overmatched opponents getting beat up, probs beat your meat to it.
      Dramashow Crawford and GGG both couldn't get the fights they wanted just for different reasons.

      We don't know the structure of his deal. If he was a true free agent and could leave then he deserves some criticism. If not, then he had to choose between resigning or sitting-which then you'd criticize him for.

      No, that is you. You loved watching GGG get easy KO's. You never cared about the quality of opponent. now you are asking Crawford to do things you never asked GGG to do. The rest of us are upset that we don't get to see the fights we want.

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      • pillowfists98
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        #43
        Originally posted by Butch.McRae
        Proven against who exactly? Just back it up with some solid info.

        Btw, Spence has been pro half the time Crawford has and is 28. By the time he's 31, who knows where he'll be with all the PBC stable has for him.

        Also, Garcia lost time fighting for his career and their resumes are about dead even in terms of quality.

        Crawford has a lot to prove for that "all time" great tag.
        Any undisputed champion has proven themselves in my opinion.

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        • pillowfists98
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          #44
          Originally posted by DramaShow
          im sorry man they werent much good imo, just look how theyve done since crawford left im not having it that every single one of them crumbled mentally. weve seen diaz lose to a bum, postol got dropped by some nobody and then lsot to a relative novice and then prograis destroyed indongo. Im not saying crawford sucks, i think hes a world level fighter but im not rating him as high as everyone else. Lets remember broner took a similar path up to welter and people were so sure that he was the next mayweather. Whos to say crawford doesnt fold if spence puts some pressure on him? U just dont know the full capability of a fighter until they are in with someone world classs.
          Again, you are a total hypocrite. You praised GGG, even when he stayed at one division fought nobodies and had a ****ty resume. And comparing Crawford to Broner lol. Broner hasn't been #1 in any divison he's fought at. Crawford has already done that twice.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DramaShow
            GGG still fought the best in his division i didnt see him going after the world number 27. Crawfords got good fighters in the division and its HIS actions that are stopping them, hes decided to stick with arums in house bum of the month club. If fights dont happen cause of promo issues its on him cause he knew what the deal was.
            If GGG fought the best in his division then he'd have had all the belts, no? I get that he couldn't make all the fights so maybe he was wiling to fight all the best but he didn't fight all the best.

            Crawford cleaned up 135 in a similar manner to GGG at 160, then he moved up at won all four belts at 140. There's no merit in that? He took some 0's, he beat some guys a lot of people said he wouldn't.

            The PBC guys are technically free-agents, no? So why not look at them? Why is it all on Bud? Are you seriously suggesting he should have turned down a great number of guaranteed fights yearly and paydays? It's not like a star won't emerge from the WBSS 140-series with Taylor and Prograis. It's not like Ramirez is some schmuck. He's coming along nicely himself.

            Isn't it Spence who said he had to "clean this side of the street first"?

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              #46
              Originally posted by pillowfists98
              He's been an undisputed champion. What are you talking about low expectations?? I get that people are disappointed but that's only because Crawford is so talented. He would be a huge favorite against any WW not named Spence or Thurman.
              He's a victim of his own being so talented, so well rounded and so dominant that the bar is raised in a strange way. He cleaned out 135 beating the #1, 2 & 3 in addition to beating the #1 from 130. He won EVERY belt at 140 and he's been largely fighting cats his age. Benavidez is a hungry, undefeated, former world champion. I like that kind of opponent rather than a used up "name".

              Resume has became so much about the name of a fighter these days and not the situation/circumstances etc;

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                #47
                Originally posted by pillowfists98
                Again, you are a total hypocrite. You praised GGG, even when he stayed at one division fought nobodies and had a ****ty resume. And comparing Crawford to Broner lol. Broner hasn't been #1 in any divison he's fought at. Crawford has already done that twice.
                thats the thing people scoff at it now, but they were sure this guy was elite too, he was up there in p4p rankings too based on eye test and an 0. Remember the reaction when he whooped demarco? Larry had him down as next fighter of the decade lol. As i said there were reasons ggg didnt get the big fights he wanted, as soon as opponents became available like canelo and jacobs he took them. He didnt do what crawford is, deliberately signing with a promoter who he knows wont give him the big names in the division. Theres plenty of fighters out there who would be undefeated against crawfords opposition, im betting even porter and garcia would have beat everyone on crawfords resume.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  He's a victim of his own being so talented, so well rounded and so dominant that the bar is raised in a strange way. He cleaned out 135 beating the #1, 2 & 3 in addition to beating the #1 from 130. He won EVERY belt at 140 and he's been largely fighting cats his age. Benavidez is a hungry, undefeated, former world champion. I like that kind of opponent rather than a used up "name".

                  Resume has became so much about the name of a fighter these days and not the situation/circumstances etc;
                  come on man dont hype benavidez what the hell has he ever done apart from being young and hungry lol

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                  • Butch.McRae
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DramaShow
                    thats the thing people scoff at it now, but they were sure this guy was elite too, he was up there in p4p rankings too based on eye test and an 0. Remember the reaction when he whooped demarco? Larry had him down as next fighter of the decade lol. As i said there were reasons ggg didnt get the big fights he wanted, as soon as opponents became available like canelo and jacobs he took them. He didnt do what crawford is, deliberately signing with a promoter who he knows wont give him the big names in the division. Theres plenty of fighters out there who would be undefeated against crawfords opposition, im betting even porter and garcia would have beat everyone on crawfords resume.
                    Porter definitely becausehe brings it nightly. Garcia, likely but he's a little less reliable.

                    But his resume is pretty average to above average in terms of quality opposition. I think most fair fans know that.

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                    • boxing90
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                      #50
                      Who is this guy he's fighting??????

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