Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo Must Knock Golovkin Out in Rematch

[_Rexy_]

They were probably giving Canelo credit for punches that
did not quite land, or for punches that Mayweather caught on his arms.
They also probably produced close scorecards
because they favored Canelo's aggression, even if it was
ineffective. That could also possibly explain why so many
people scored the Canelo-Golovkin fight for Golovkin, even
though he was not overly effective. Some people didn't like
Mayweather simply because of his defensive style, and it's
no different for Canelo as he adopts similar techniques.

It's been a while since I saw the fight (for some reason, Youtube, Dailymotion, anywhere doesn't seem to have that one fight up) but if I could compare it to a recent fight imagine if one of the judges gave 114-114 in the Usyk/Gassiev fight (obviously it wasn't THAT lopsided, but you get the point)

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

youre naive if you dont think theres anything behind that pattern of pro-canelo scorecards.

It's impossible to have an unbiased discussion about Golovkin
with people who use Golovkin's photo as their avatar and
choose names like 'DramaShow'. You should think about that
if you want to be taken seriously when you speak.
You can be a Golovkin fan, but don't wear his t-shirt and his
baseball cap while waving his little flag when you're trying to
seem unbiased.

[mathed]

The diva isn't doing a damn thing but getting destroyed by a superior boxer in a week.

[Madison Boxing]

It's impossible to have an unbiased discussion about Golovkin
with people who use Golovkin's photo as their avatar and
choose names like 'DramaShow'. You should think about that
if you want to be taken seriously when you speak.
You can be a Golovkin fan, but don't wear his t-shirt and his
baseball cap while waving his little flag when you're trying to
seem unbiased.

i dont care, youre still naive for thinking them judges genuinely saw the 118-110 canelo/ggg and the 114-114 mayweather/canelo cards, they are meant to be pro judges yet every other person who watched it saw something completely different. let me guess there was also no corruption regarding canelo only getting a 6 month ban for failing a test, which is lenient beyond belief.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

It's been a while since I saw the fight (for some reason, Youtube, Dailymotion, anywhere doesn't seem to have that one fight up) but if I could compare it to a recent fight imagine if one of the judges gave 114-114 in the Usyk/Gassiev fight (obviously it wasn't THAT lopsided, but you get the point)

Why have 3 judges at all if you demand they all produce
the same scores?

"Hey, you three! Tell me your opinion about this subject,
but you ALL better agree with me or else you're corrupt."

Human's are subject to individual tastes, likes, and dislikes,
no matter how robotic you ask them to be.
That's why I don't point my finger at judges and shriek like
Donald Sutherland in the last scene of 'Invasion of the
Bodysnatchers'.

[R_Walken]

Yeah, I was going to also mention how in the Floyd fight, one of the other judges had it 116-112 which I still found way too close for that blowout. The Trout fight was BS because I know I had Trout ahead on the cards, as did a lot of people. One of the judges didn't give a single round to Trout (was an open scoring fight, so when they told Trout the score, he had to change his entire gameplan and look for the KO, which was BS because he was winning the damn fight!)

Yeah for sure

I think I had Trout winning if I remember or maybe a draw , but the scores were absolute atrocious

AndnCanelo got the KD so in most fight ls that play out like that a closeish fight the guy especially with the KD who’s A-side will get the decision ( Gennady /Jacobs’s ) so you can’t really complain too much

You began your original tirade by claiming that Canelo
"always has 2 judges in his pocket". That's what you've
been discredited for saying, but you've gone off in another direction instead of trying to defending your original silly statement as being true. That wont happen if you stick to facts. Nobody is going to quietly accept your fiction.

It’s not fiction

It’s the way the sport works for A side protected fighters

1 judge is in the pocket and scores the a-side the round for just showing up like Canelo getting 118-112 against Gennady or 117-113 against Lara. 2 absolutely disgusting scorecards no matter how you scored it

Then the 2nd judge gives all the closeish rounds or any rounds that is conceivably up for grabs to to the A-side 115-113 against Lara / Golovkin

It fools the public that it isn’t corrupt because 1 is blatant fraud and the second is just a little off giving the a-side all the rounds they possibly can

Since boxing is a sport that can be judged with no rhyme or reason and subjective having it like this doesn’t raise alarms

You can’t have 2 judges scoring like Adailane Byrd with no concern for the optics of corruption
Because boxing is already viewed as corrupt having 2 outrageous cards only solidifies that opinion in peoples mind and the sport will lose whatever credibility it has left

But keep drinking the look aid and think Canelo actually deserves his scorecards

[McNulty]

But it's extra unreasonable to assume they greased one
judge's pocket in order to receive a draw from that judge.

They could have a least bought a split decision if they were
actually paying a judge to score in Canelo's favor.

Trella was fixed too. The fight wasn't even close to a draw. 8-4 easy GGG.

[Willy Wanker]

De La Hoya is acting like Canelo was the one who got screwed by the decision in the first fight.

[BigStomps]

Sure buds just read Rexys post again , and keep reading it until the truth sinks in

Yeah he doesn’t need a KO when every fight he gets the benefit of the doubt from the judges in every fight



Exactly , and the other 2 judges gave him 3&4 rounds I believe in a fight most believe he got shutout or damn near shutout in

But yup no bias goin on



So your reasoning is he doesn’t get favouritism because he lost a fight most thought he got shut out in

And 1 judge had the nerve to score it a draw while the other 2 gave him enough rounds to make the fight look respectable which it wasn’t

So there for he doesn’t receive favouritism from the judges. Am I reading your post correctly

Ignore that he had a judge give a score of 118-112 against Gennady while another scored itnandraw in a fight only Canelo sem.en drinkers thought he won

Ignore the Lara fight which he gotnanscorecard of 117-113 and 115-113 in another fight 90%of boxing fans /media /personalities thought he lost

While you are at it Ignore the Trout fight and the wide scorecards that most felt was a draw ( f.uck it though he got a KD so whatever )

Don’t mind the Cotto scorecards that were wwaaaayyyy off giving Cotto 1-2 rounds was BS

It’s just a coincidence that Canelo always gets the benefit. That’s it

C'mon man! Man up and stick to what you said!
Now you're trying to flip the script and speak about something different.
For the record I had Canelo losing all 12 rounds vs Mayweather.
But grow some nutts and admit you was wrong!
Now you're saying Canelo gets the benefit of a doubt in every fight and gets questionable decisions... If that's how you see it then you're entitled to say it.
But you said Canelo ALWAYS HAS TWO JUDGES IN HIS POCKET!
Getting questionable decisions and having two judges in his pocket is a quite different story.
That's what you're doing now is changing up your story.
Cause you know you look like a damn fool saying Canelo always has two judges in his pocket. If that was the case then he'd still be undefeated. Think about it!

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

i dont care, youre still naive for thinking them judges genuinely saw the 118-110 canelo/ggg and the 114-114 mayweather/canelo cards, they are meant to be pro judges yet every other person who watched it saw something completely different. let me guess there was also no corruption regarding canelo only getting a 6 month ban for failing a test, which is lenient beyond belief.

The NSAC gives lighter sentences to those who's failed
tests can be traced back to unwitting contamination,
and Byrd had the right to score the fight as she saw it,
which was competitive, but not close. None of these facts
hurt my feelings, but it's amusing that so many others feel
so wounded by it. Mostly just the type of people who
are compelled to use Golovkin's photo and name as part
of their profile like some kind of obsessed little fan.