At 36 years old GGG has only faced 4 world champions

[Chuckguy]

Cotto's actions speak for his words. He fought at 159, moved down to 157, moved down to 155, and returned to 154.

Gennady said "no catchweight for Cotto". So Canelo took the chance and the fame/money that comes with it.

"What part of that do you not understand?"



Andre Ward was far more relevant and popular in the timeframe their fight was being discussed. Gennady went on to fight Willie Monroe and the guy on house arrest. In between those fights he balked at fighting Canelo at a Catchweight.

Terrific business decisions. Just kidding. They were awful. Did he eventually get the Canelo fights and the money? Yes. However, he missed out on a lot more by waiting until he was 36-37 years old when he could've been the A-side since 34-35...over a few measly pounds...



So sad.

Oh I think ggg is a fool for waiting canelo out. He should have moved up got his azz kicked by ward but at least it’s a legacy fight and no one would knock him for losing to a p4p #1. Only haters would. But he chose to fight bums I’m not arguing that we can ageee on that 100%. But you have to admit he was also the most avoided fighter for 3-4 years and for good reason again super high risk very low reward.

[Bjl12]

Oh I think ggg is a fool for waiting canelo out. He should have moved up got his azz kicked by ward but at least it’s a legacy fight and no one would knock him for losing to a p4p #1. Only haters would. But he chose to fight bums I’m not arguing that we can ageee on that 100%. But you have to admit he was also the most avoided fighter for 3-4 years and for good reason again super high risk very low reward.

He was clearly avoided since Cotto and Canelo didn't take the fights during that time frame, but neither guy fought anyone else at 160.

Cotto fought against Sergio Martinez at 159, down to 157 for Geale, 155 for Canelo...Canelo never went above 155 until fighting Chavez at 162 or 164?

I don't really hold either of them accountable as much as I do someone like Peter Quillin who was actively fighting at 160, but only versus Bums. Once he stepped up to C+/B- level he got blown out - literally.

I like GGG and he's good for boxing, but there's reason why he was so avoided IMO.

Errol Spence is legitimately being avoided against non tomato cans. Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Keith Thurman are actively fighting each other and trying their best to ignore Errol's existence.

The only guy willing to fight Errol is Terrence (and I think TC wins that fight). This isn't a case of guys fighting at 140 or CW's between 140 and 147.

Nonetheless GGG was def. avoided, but not by the stretch some make it out to be.

GGG is a good fighter, but he's not some career defining opponent. Sadly - like you mention - he was too satisfied fighting part-time fighters instead of challenging himself against Ward or Canelo/Cotto at CW's...those would've been very good chips on a resume. Instead he's got a JMW on 2 weeks notice, a guy on house arrest, a Welterweight as one of his Top 5 wins, and a lifelong contender in Martin Murray who has never held a strap for 1 day in his life...very disappointing, honestly.

While Canelo is a prima donna and gets the benefit of the doubt 9/10 times he does also take on tough challenges...Trout, Floyd @ 152 when he was 22 years old, Lara, GGG, Angulo (he was supposed to be a bad opponent immediately after Floyd "broke" Canelo), and Cotto who was supposed to be too veteran.

Props that Canelo "usually" fights the top guys quickly. If they're in his weight class he fights them. Gennady was 1 above him and he did still fight a "prime" Gennady although he either narrowly won or, more likely, narrowly lost. In any case we're left with a draw so let's see what happens in a week !

[James09]

Golovkin's problem is of all the guys he beat only Jacobs has done well after their fight. The rest disappeared almost.

[Chuckguy]

Golovkin's problem is of all the guys he beat only Jacobs has done well after their fight. The rest disappeared almost.

That shouldn’t be an issue because the only fighter that Floyd fought who went on to do anything was canelo. Look at what happened to hatton Judah Baldomir guerrrro ortrees maidana and all others post Oscar. Yet his fan boys claim most champions best best resume ever blah blah blah.

[Madison Boxing]

whats your point? if youve dominated one division for a long time where exactly are these 'world champions' gonna come from unless they move up in weight

[Vasyl’s dad]

Miguel Cotto was never a Middleweight. He technically fought in that weight class on 3 occasions, but you are some kind of dense (********** trash most likely) if you believe JWW Miguel Cotto was a MW

155 + 157 + 159 = Average of 157 which is not 160 nor is it 154...a blind man can clearly see he was not a MW lol. Even at 155 JMW Canelo dwarfed Cotto

When you win the middleweight title in the middleweight division and defend it,

You are a middleweight. Doesnt matter if you dont weigh up to the maximum limit. 160 is only the limit, not the requirement.

[Bjl12]

When you win the middleweight title in the middleweight division and defend it,

You are a middleweight. Doesnt matter if you dont weigh up to the maximum limit. 160 is only the limit, not the requirement.

Wins title at 159, defends at 157 and 155.

GolovCUCKS say "MW is MW", but Gennady only fights MW at 160.

So why didnt GGG fight Cotto or Canelo at 155? He said it has to take place at 160? You just said "You are a middleweight. Doesnt matter if you dont weigh up to the maximum limit."

Since MW is MW why does Gennady get a pass for ducking Cotto and Canelo at 155 and Brook at 157???

Make sense CUCKBOY

[TonyGe]

Oh I think ggg is a fool for waiting canelo out. He should have moved up got his azz kicked by ward but at least it’s a legacy fight and no one would knock him for losing to a p4p #1. Only haters would. But he chose to fight bums I’m not arguing that we can ageee on that 100%. But you have to admit he was also the most avoided fighter for 3-4 years and for good reason again super high risk very low reward.

If it was only a few measly pounds the why didn't Ward move down or Canelo move up sooner?? If it's only a few measly pounds the why did Canelo fight over the weight limit for his division and still claimed to be a JM?

[TonyGe]

Wins title at 159, defends at 157 and 155.

GolovCUCKS say "MW is MW", but Gennady only fights MW at 160.

So why didnt GGG fight Cotto or Canelo at 155? He said it has to take place at 160? You just said "You are a middleweight. Doesnt matter if you dont weigh up to the maximum limit."

Since MW is MW why does Gennady get a pass for ducking Cotto and Canelo at 155 and Brook at 157???

Make sense CUCKBOY

Historically it is extremely rare for a reining Middleweight Champion to move down in weight. It's much more common for the lighter guy to move up.
Cotto paid Golovkin 850,000 dollars so he would step aside and let Cotto fight Canelo. Does that sound like a guy who was chomping at the bit to fight Golovkin. Canelos team publically stated he wasn't ready to fight Golovkin and the fight had to marinate. . When Canelo beat Cotto he called out Golovkin and then vacated later. Sounds like he wasn't interested either.

[Bjl12]

Historically it is extremely rare for a reining Middleweight Champion to move down in weight. It's much more common for the lighter guy to move up.
Cotto paid Golovkin 850,000 dollars so he would step aside and let Cotto fight Canelo. Does that sound like a guy who was chomping at the bit to fight Golovkin. Canelos team publically stated he wasn't ready to fight Golovkin and the fight had to marinate. . When Canelo beat Cotto he called out Golovkin and then vacated later. Sounds like he wasn't interested either.

If you say 155 is Middleweight in the same 160 is Middleweight than a middleweight "champion" should be able to fight 155-160.

It's - in modern history - extremely rare for a "champion" to have 4 champion opponents in their entire career...one of those "champs" is a WELTERWEIGHT.