Would it be a fair assumption to say...

[Sable&Whitefish]

You sound uneducated

Agreed, I don't know if this is worth discussing.

Yes, when you step up competition you will see if you're made for it -- being a top level fighter that is. But everyone knows that.

What you're saying here is basically: "How do we know someone's a good fighter until they fight (someone talented)".

The answer is that we don't, but if they want to be great and enough of us want them to be great, they will get that fight.

Basically, don't worry about it. If the demand and the money is right, we will determine who is the best.

If not, and everybody ducks everybody else, we'll still work it out. Stop worrying and find some of your favorite fighters to watch, things will always be interesting if you do that!

Stay up brother,

Sable & Whitefish

[A.K]

Agreed, I don't know if this is worth discussing.

Yes, when you step up competition you will see if you're made for it -- being a top level fighter that is. But everyone knows that.

What you're saying here is basically: "How do we know someone's a good fighter until they fight (someone talented)".

The answer is that we don't, but if they want to be great and enough of us want them to be great, they will get that fight.

Basically, don't worry about it. If the demand and the money is right, we will determine who is the best.

If not, and everybody ducks everybody else, we'll still work it out. Stop worrying and find some of your favorite fighters to watch, things will always be interesting if you do that!

Stay up brother,

Sable & Whitefish

That’s exactly why GGG and Wilder are legends

[Pat bateman]

Training and sparring is how you get ready and perfect your skills for real fights. Real fights show you where you need to improve so then it's back to training, practicing and improving your weaknesses. If all you did was have real fights without training, sparring and perfecting your skills you would really be making things hard for yourself.

Another poster further down from you're post worded what I meant alot better. Is learning achieved in a real fight better because the dangers there compared to a safer sparring environment. Thanks for contributing though instead of insults.

[Pat bateman]

You sound uneducated

Thanks for you're input however helpful it was.

[Pat bateman]

I think to really get fighting fit you need fights. All the Sparring rounds in the world dont fully prepare you for the fitness you need to go 12 tough rounds. Theres no real nerves and tension in Sparring that you get on fight night and those nerves and tension do sapp energy. But you hone your skills in the gym and you polish them in sparring and then you try to execute them on fight night. But then you need to make sure you have proper Sparring partners and not ego soothers.

Spot on great post thanks for explaining that its what I alluded too but worded horribly.

[Pat bateman]

Agreed, I don't know if this is worth discussing.

Yes, when you step up competition you will see if you're made for it -- being a top level fighter that is. But everyone knows that.

What you're saying here is basically: "How do we know someone's a good fighter until they fight (someone talented)".

The answer is that we don't, but if they want to be great and enough of us want them to be great, they will get that fight.

Basically, don't worry about it. If the demand and the money is right, we will determine who is the best.

If not, and everybody ducks everybody else, we'll still work it out. Stop worrying and find some of your favorite fighters to watch, things will always be interesting if you do that!

Stay up brother,

Sable & Whitefish

Its a boxing/fighting site I'd say its worth discussion. Just because someone who doesnt know me says im uneducated doesn't make it true now does it?

[Pat bateman]

If you gotta learn while fighting, you are going to sustain a lot of unneeded damage, and possibly scar tissue.

Study, go through the motions. Develop the mind body connection. It’s needed to build reflexes, and ability.

What is you're view on natural fighting ability from muscle memory? I boxed as an amateur and still retain most of my good habits namely punch form and defensive head movements etc

[Pat bateman]

A lot of fighters these days aren't active enough, without question. Even fighting softer guys and piling up rounds is good to build up confidence and gain experience in the ring and learning how to deal with certain tough situations and possibly against a weaker opponent instead of having the same problem pop up against a tough opponent and not know how to deal with it. There's no substitute for a real boxing match on learning.

That said, you have to learn from your mistakes and work very hard in the gym and always keep learning. That's the difference between good and great. The old veterans know lots of tricks the young guys haven't had time or the experience to pick up on just yet.

Great post makes alot of sense to me bro.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The best way of being a better fighter is too literally fight? No matter how much theory or study, fitness training etc matters compared to real fight experience or am I way off geezers.

Discuss.

100% correct. Like anything the more you practice the better you get. Anyone on this site who has actually boxed, sparred etc will understand. You can study film, practice techniques etc etc but you learn so much more within the ring. There’s certain ring craft and nuances you can only learn from actually fighting. I think B-Hop is a great example of learning on the job. The difference between a young inexperienced B-Hop in the early 90’s and the polished ring savvy version in the 2000’s show this.

[brettWall]

Get sparring partners that really want to knock you out. Some trainers like Roach, for example, even offer cash reward for beating Pacquiao.