Mike Tyson at 33 vs. Deonthay Wilder at almost 33

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  • boliodogs
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    #31
    Originally posted by abracada


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    Wilder is the windmill of doom.

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      #32
      Originally posted by abracada


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      The prime Tyson was a highly skilled, well schooled, polished boxer-puncher. Wilder has great speed and power. He is clearly wild and sloppy and not well schooled, polished or particularly skillful.

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        #33
        Tyson was finished by the late 90’s, Wilder ices him.
        Prime Tyson is a different story...

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        • boliodogs
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          #34
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Like he did CW Holyfield? Try again. Wilders way too big for him. (reach and height)
          Fights aren't won by reach and height advantages. If they were then why bother to fight at all. Just measure the boxers and declare the tall long armed guy the winner. How much good did his height and reach do Easter against Mikey?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            I don't think Tyson even had a punchers chance, he hit guys like Mitch Green, Tillis, Douglas, and others from pillar to post, could not knock them out. Most of his 1 punch knockouts were against bums or smaller guys.

            Can't see any version of Tyson beating Wilder.
            I sure can't agree with this. You call Tyson's opponents bums but what about Wilder's opponents? Only Stiverne and Ortiz were legit top 10 contenders. The other 37 guys were not good heavyweights at all. How long would Molina last with a prime Tyson? I'd guess Molina would last 2 rounds or less with the prime Tyson.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              Like he did CW Holyfield? Try again. Wilders way too big for him. (reach and height)
              I agree that today's Wilder beats a 33 year old Tyson but I think a prime Tyson beats any Wilder. Tyson had been to prison and was well past his best when he fought Holyfield. That Holyfield that you call a CW is generally considered a great heavyweight and he might well have beaten Wilder. The Tyson who lost to Douglas was also far from Tyson at his best just as Wilder looked like garbage against Molina. Most boxers have a bad night once in a while and you can't judge them completely off of that bad night.

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                #37
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I sure can't agree with this. You call Tyson's opponents bums but what about Wilder's opponents? Only Stiverne and Ortiz were legit top 10 contenders. The other 37 guys were not good heavyweights at all. How long would Molina last with a prime Tyson? I'd guess Molina would last 2 rounds or less with the prime Tyson.
                Hard to say, Molina isn't a small guy at all, he's 6'4 230 and can crack. He's been stopped before but so were other Tyson opponents that'd gone rounds with him. These guys look pathetic compared to AJ-Wilder because they're so severely undersized.

                Ribalta was 6'5 212 when he fought Tyson, much smaller and less powerful than Molina. 3 years prior he got TKO'd by an 0-1 fighter, I don't think that's nearly as bad as losing to 32-2 Arreola. Ribalta managed to go 10 before getting stopped but not before eating hundreds of punches.

                There were a lot of guys in these older eras who got knocked out by fighters who's names faded into oblivion, and those fighters who beat them also lost to part time boxers taking the fight on a few days/weeks notice who nobody remembers.

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                  #38
                  Tyson move his head, Beyoncé windmills and hits air, Tyson gets inside and uppercuts the diva and kills him.

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                    #39
                    I'm a Wilder backer but there was a whole different level of boxing going on at that time in the heavies. Tyson's skills would have been a factor, his head movement and ability to cut off the ring are levels above anybody in the division right now including Wilder, AJ & Fury.

                    AJ is a specimen, Fury is super crafty and Wilder has one of the most devastating straight rights I've ever seen, but they all seem like big guys that make money at fighting, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, looked like pro boxers.

                    I think Mike would have caught him, and with a better shot than Ortiz.

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                      #40
                      That version of Mike Tyson easily beats Deontay Wilder in my opinion. This current generation of Heavyweights just don't stack up to the Heavyweights of old.

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