Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: We Should Wait Two Years To Make Joshua-Wilder

[Ray*]

None of that matters. Even mandatory Challengers get 25%.

I thought it’s not about money? You asked for my reasons and I have them to you. It doesn’t matter that he was guaranteed 5 times his normal pay? I mean if he was being ducked then it totally matters. Take that money and become the undisputed, this just tells me he wasn’t being ducked. Same way GGG was being “Ducked” before the first Canelo fight, at the end of the day once Wilder destroys Fury he can then command a better leverage than he thinks he’s worth. Right now him and his team are marinating the Joshua fight for a bigger piece of the pie.

[brettWall]

None of that matters. Even mandatory Challengers get 25%.

Not true. Wilder's opponents got significantly less. Ortiz got 20%.

[Ake-Dawg]

I thought it’s not about money? You asked for my reasons and I have them to you. It doesn’t matter that he was guaranteed 5 times his normal pay? I mean if he was being ducked then it totally matters. Take that money and become the undisputed, this just tells me he wasn’t being ducked. Same way GGG was being “Ducked” before the first Canelo fight, at the end of the day once Wilder destroys Fury he can then command a better leverage than he thinks he’s worth. Right now him and his team are marinating the Joshua fight for a bigger piece of the pie.

Doesn't matter what you got paid for previous fights. What matters is what value you bring to your next fight. Wilder vs Joshua is a bigger fight than Joshua vs any other fighter. Just like GGG vs Canelo is a bigger fight than Canelo vs any other fighter.

No matter how you try and spin this, boxing business logic wins. Oh and who exactly ducked GGG that was gonna help him make purses bigger than the purses he's made that were similar to Wilder's? The difference between Alvarez and Joshua is, people wanted to see Alvarez get beat and wanted to see GGG validated, whereas people (generally from the UK) don't want to see Joshua beat and people (like yourself) don't want to see Wilder validated or get paid..extra emphasis on don't want to see Wilder get paid.


The fact that a fan of boxing, knowing that these guys risk their lives every time out would actually hope that a fighter gets less money is an atrocity. You want Wilder to not focus on the money while Joshua makes it ONLY about money. Ridiculous.

[Ake-Dawg]

Not true. Wilder's opponents got significantly less. Ortiz got 20%.

A mandatory challenger, upon a purse bid, would get 25% of the winning bid. Ortiz did not fight Wilder as a mandatory challenger.

[Hatesrats]

Fight will never happen I'm calling Bowe/Lewis 2.0

[nacho daddy]

why not wait 20 years

[Ake-Dawg]

I thought it’s not about money? You asked for my reasons and I have them to you. It doesn’t matter that he was guaranteed 5 times his normal pay? I mean if he was being ducked then it totally matters. Take that money and become the undisputed, this just tells me he wasn’t being ducked. Same way GGG was being “Ducked” before the first Canelo fight, at the end of the day once Wilder destroys Fury he can then command a better leverage than he thinks he’s worth. Right now him and his team are marinating the Joshua fight for a bigger piece of the pie.

One would expect that as a fan, you wouldn't be searching for angles of approaches and reasons to justify your desire for Wilder to not get a big check. You think Wilder deserves less than a mandatory challenger would get if the belt organization ordered the fight, knowing that the belt organizations can arbitrarily select who the mandatory challenger is. Who can Joshua fight and generate the 80M that B.Hearn projects the Wilder fight would make? Wilder's supposed to only get 18% of that? And if it makes even more Wilder is supposed to just sit like a good boy and be thankful that he's getting 3-4 times his highest pay day (the 2.5M was just the guarantee)?

[davidw9785]

Maybe you should read again. Eddie is the boss of Matchroom boxing, not his dad Barry.
Maybe you do in your life only what your daddy tells you, but not everybody is like that.

I understand what you're saying... that their opinions and views should be independent of each other... but come on man, get real. The elder Hearn built that business. Eddie isn't going to completely disregard his advice.

My only point was to say how disgusting it is hear a promoter completely take their fans' loyalty for granted. To say that they can ignore the other guy in the division that everyone wants their man to fight in order to wait him out, catch him slipping, marinate the fight, let the demand build, blah, blah, blah, etc. I wish they had some confidence in AJ and saw the first fight as a way to get a trilogy going. I don't think they believe AJ can best Wilder without getting destroyed.

[New England]

can you imagine how loud the brits would be if team wilder came out with this nonsense?

notice how none of them post on boxingscene any more?

[rickJen]

That’s his opinion. That doesn’t change anything. Some people can read what they want to read into it. There was an offer on the table. It was turned down, we move on. Now everyone gets to get more money like they actually wanted in the first place once Wilder beats Fury.

It’s amazing how they all just fall in line and type the same thing lol. Like literally ignore everything else and read what Wilder or finkle wanted them to read into it. There is a contract on the table. If someone is ducking you then sign it. If you think that fight would get bigger like most knowledgeable thinks then don’t sign it. And hide behind the “They don’t want the fight” theme.

At least Barry's whole idea is to make even more money.
In contrast, Shirley Winkel says sissy things like,
"My baby Deontay will not be rushed to fight Klitschko."
In this case it's not even about money. It's about fear.
Fear of losing to an almost retired Wlad.
This is the guy who deserve more than $12.5 mil,
according to his defenders.
It's sick. This sport is fckd.
Who will be the next Deontay?
Fight scrubs most of your career,
then demand truckloads of money you don't even deserve.