Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: We Should Wait Two Years To Make Joshua-Wilder

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  • Bronx2245
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    #141
    Originally posted by Noelanthony
    Yes but he is not ranked 1 with the WBC as confusing as it may sound. He is mandatory but Whyte is no 1 also if Breazeale was to beat Whyte he would be ranked with highly with the other organisations which is not the case now. Not to mention the Money which is as far as he should be concerned the deal breaker why all roads point to Whyte.

    Breazeale is surplus to requirements. He will give his right arm to be on Dazn. Yes he is mandatory to Wilder but in all honesty he may not get an opportunity to fight Wilder till 2020
    I think he would become a viable opponent immediately if he were to beat Ortiz! If Breazeale wants Whyte, he should sign with Hearn! If he wants Wilder, he should fight Ortiz!

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #142
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Definitely support the flat fees then, I didn't and still don't think he deserves 15m dollars, that's why I didn't think he was being ducked. I think the idea of marinating came from both sides, if not Wilder himself would have taken all the offers made towards him by the team that were "supposedly ducking" him.
      Is there a boxing related reason why you don't think he deserves a fair percentage of the profits from a fight? Is there something more than the that's too much money for him to get?

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        #143
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        Is there a boxing related reason why you don't think he deserves a fair percentage of the profits from a fight? Is there something more than the that's too much money for him to get?
        Agreed . As always to make a fight of such magnitude , interest and such huge pot , it takes two names so for people to think that one should walk away with most of it beggars believe .

        Bottom line is A.J. and co. want it all and no real part of Wilder.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
          I could have sworn that there was a stadium full of brits chanting wilders name at the end of Joshua vs takam fight. Maybe I’m mistaken though
          No, they were chanting "Milder"

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            #145
            Originally posted by thack
            Agreed . As always to make a fight of such magnitude , interest and such huge pot , it takes two names so for people to think that one should walk away with most of it beggars believe .

            Bottom line is A.J. and co. want it all and no real part of Wilder.
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            Is there a boxing related reason why you don't think he deserves a fair percentage of the profits from a fight? Is there something more than the that's too much money for him to get?

            The best part in my eyes; WBO mandatory challengers get a mandatory 25% of the revenue, so it's hilarious that the Hearniacs think that Deontay Wilder, the WBC Champion should make less money than Alexander Povetkin to face AJ.

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              #146
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              The best part in my eyes; WBO mandatory challengers get a mandatory 25% of the revenue, so it's hilarious that the Hearniacs think that Deontay Wilder, the WBC Champion should make less money than Alexander Povetkin to face AJ.
              That's what I'm thinking. It must be something personal. Why does a fan concern himself with what a fighter deserves?

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                #147
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                The best part in my eyes; WBO mandatory challengers get a mandatory 25% of the revenue, so it's hilarious that the Hearniacs think that Deontay Wilder, the WBC Champion should make less money than Alexander Povetkin to face AJ.
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                I tot you just wanted to see the best fight, why are you so concerned with the terms of contract?
                What's your business with the flat fee. Just a signature will put this fight in motion and save us all these back and forth.
                With that perspective...any fighter could offer another fighter a fight...with any terms...and as fans we are supposed to expect that fighter to accept.

                I expect reasonable terms to be offered to get fights made and when they are not, reserve the right to believe that when you offer crap terms that you don't really want the fight.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  They can f**k off and go watch something better suited for their fan boy tendencies. Like a Justin Bieber concert perhaps.
                  Yeah.... You got it right this time.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    Is there a boxing related reason why you don't think he deserves a fair percentage of the profits from a fight? Is there something more than the that's too much money for him to get?
                    (1) Because I don’t think his resume of low level opposition except for his title challenge deserves that money.

                    (2) Because he claimed he was being ducked and he would accept a good pay and the financial shouldn’t be use as a way to duck a fight.

                    (3) Because the final offer so far represents at least 5 times what his highest payday has been so far.

                    I have made my points clearer from day 1, am NOT a Joshua fan. Am looking at it as someone that actually use to side with Wilder until these saga started like 6 months ago. Now if he beats Fury THEN I believe he deserve a good percentage, you cannot beat bum for 8/9 years and then call yourself the alpha like Kell Brook try to do over here at 147.

                    Again if he beats Fury then he would have more rights to ask for more money, which means he was never ducked he just like every fighter wants more money....

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      (1) Because I don’t think his resume of low level opposition except for his title challenge deserves that money.

                      (2) Because he claimed he was being ducked and he would accept a good pay and the financial shouldn’t be use as a way to duck a fight.

                      (3) Because the final offer so far represents at least 5 times what his highest payday has been so far.

                      I have made my points clearer from day 1, am NOT a Joshua fan. Am looking at it as someone that actually use to side with Wilder until these saga started like 6 months ago. Now if he beats Fury THEN I believe he deserve a good percentage, you cannot beat bum for 8/9 years and then call yourself the alpha like Kell Brook try to do over here at 147.

                      Again if he beats Fury then he would have more rights to ask for more money, which means he was never ducked he just like every fighter wants more money....
                      None of that matters. Even mandatory Challengers get 25%.

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