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  • #81
    Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
    Not necessarily because the money was accepted but it’s obvious they wanted to be rewarded substantially for the risk that they feel Deontay possesses. It’s easy for you and I to say give him 50/50 as we are not involved financially. The point I’m making is that the offer has been frowned upon by nearly all media outlets and fans alike. To stop the backlash change it to a percentage.

    They may well be scared and have no intention to face Wilder . However whilst there is a signed contract by them regardless of how bull****it is they run the risk that Wilder could sign and they have no choice but to fight. Basically the more money they offer Wilder the more they are not scared ,is that what you are saying?
    What I'm saying is that the flat-fee offer was deliberately made to discourage the fight from happening in the first place!

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    • #82
      So its the same kinda situation as tank davis not fighting loma

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      • #83
        Originally posted by CJFRENCH View Post
        Joshua with 21 fights in, so far has took on Wlad (yes an old Klitschko), fought Martin a big undefeated HW Champion (yes we now know he was rubbish), fought Parker an undefeated champion (too small and not that good) and Whyte and Breazeale. He is now fighting the top 3 guy who has only lost once. So Wilder has finally grown a pair after 40 fights, where has he been, what has he been doing why is he not a unified champion. The MONEY is now right so they are happy to take risks with Wilder fighting Fury and or Joshua. With Joshua he has more options and is making big money now, maybe after 40 fights you can call him a coward if he has not fought Wilder, but with 21 fights who had the ***** Wilder fought, think about it. I am not saying either of them is a coward; you need to go into a fight to win (unless you are a journey man) so can we cut out the coward stuff as as it sounds like schoolboy playground stuff.
        As soon as you mentioned Martin your argument became moot.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Steven Mccowan View Post
          So its the same kinda situation as tank davis not fighting loma
          actually its Loma not fighting Tank Davis. Mayweather made the call to T. Duboef and Arum said that Loma would easily win then brushed the fight off,so don't blame Tank.

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          • #85
            Hearn forgot to mention Wilder will be 34 in 2 years and possibly could slow down in that time , much like Canelo waited for GGG to get older and slow down before fighting him.

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            • #86
              Joshua is a mentally weak boring heavyweight and will lose before two years. He might not get passed PEDvetkin. At least the elder Hearn kept it real instead of the younger Hearn road blocks.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                That’s his opinion. That doesn’t change anything. Some people can read what they want to read into it. There was an offer on the table. It was turned down, we move on. Now everyone gets to get more money like they actually wanted in the first place once Wilder beats Fury.
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                It’s amazing how they all just fall in line and type the same thing lol. Like literally ignore everything else and read what Wilder or finkle wanted them to read into it. There is a contract on the table. If someone is ducking you then sign it. If you think that fight would get bigger like most knowledgeable thinks then don’t sign it. And hide behind the “They don’t want the fight” theme.
                This is what happens when you say no to every offer made.
                It started with the $12.5 mil, and Wilder said no.
                An amount that he cannot make fighting scrubs in the US.
                The four belts that are on the line had no value.
                Not to mention the chance to become king in the division,
                thus become the dictator of his next fight, like the AJ rematch, for example.
                That chance is gone gone gone.
                So now he and his team had to come up with at least 4 fights after the Fury fight.
                Fights that would guarantee him victory for 2 years.
                Man he got closed to being stopped by a 40 yr old Ortiz.
                And why would fans want to see him fight 4 scrubs?
                Last edited by rickJen; 09-01-2018, 07:14 AM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
                  actually its Loma not fighting Tank Davis. Mayweather made the call to T. Duboef and Arum said that Loma would easily win then brushed the fight off,so don't blame Tank.
                  Bro cmon. When Tank got wind that Mayweather made contact with team Loma I will never forget his face expression was like he had seen a ghost then he replied” why would he do that” Are you forgetting the memes Loma sent out demanding the fight. Tank was silent for several months. He fancied his chances talking **** to Wilder and the Charlo brothers. Then when he summoned the courage months later he said he will only fight Loma on PPV. Who says that?

                  Before I saw Tank’s disloyal ways with Mayweather I actually encouraged him to stay away from Loma because Loma would smoke his boots.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
                    Joshua is a mentally weak boring heavyweight and will lose before two years. He might not get passed PEDvetkin. At least the elder Hearn kept it real instead of the younger Hearn road blocks.
                    Why is he boring? He has knocked out every opponent baring 1 fighter. He dominates his opponents and he has flaws which is always exciting to watch, similar to Deontay. I won’t ask you why you think his mind is weak. Let me guess if he offered Wilder 50/50 his mind will be strong?

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                    • #90
                      If its about the money, then sure, go ahead and take another 12 months to make a $50 million fight into a $200 million fight.
                      If it's about the fame and notoriety of being the best, then fight now.
                      Last edited by zok310; 09-01-2018, 07:33 AM.

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