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  • j.razor
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    #221
    Originally posted by Mirus
    1.
    If ggg cared only about money, he could agree to 60-40 split. But there was a risk to fight saunders for less money.

    2.
    60-40 split is not fair.

    3.
    GGG was angry. Because he can not
    fight a cheater for less money. He probably fought a boxer with doping in the first fight.

    4.
    Canelo himself has fought Amir khan only because of money even though it was clear that everybody will critisize for fighting chinny welter.

    5. He agreed to 70-30 split in the first fight. Is it look like the behavior of a man who cares only about money?

    6.
    Canelo couldn't beat ggg, so ggg can demand more money in the rematch.
    1. You don't know if Nelo would of fought bily hoe & you know bily hoe would of took that Nelo money, after all bily hoe wouldn't fight Jacobs unless he got 5 million.

    2. 60/40 was MORE than fair.

    3. lil g can be angry all he wants but needs to stop acting like cry baby

    4. Amir khan asked for it....

    5. 70/30 was fair & props to lil g for taking it.

    6. Nelo DID beat lil g & for the rematch not happening on its original date it would of been fair to give lil g more money but not half!

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #222
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      They ordered the rematch such that the fight could take place before Charlo got his shot. Which I believe would have been due this summer had there been a winner. GGG would not have been stripped had he not fought Alvarez in September.
      Fair enough, that is indeed why they ordered the fight in my estimation. However unless you can provide some evidence to contrary, once the fight was mandated it became subject to the same rules that govern any other mandatory (ie GGG would have been stripped had he refused to fight). Do you have some evidence to indicate that the bolded is true? If you do I'll happily admit to being wrong.

      Like I said before though the caveat was always that Golovkin had to be willing to forgo his Champions split of the purse... had he demanded the lion's share and Canelo had - perfectly justifiably - refused, then indeed Golovkin could not have been stripped under the WBCs rules. It was this 'get out' clause that led to the WBC announcing that Golovkin would have to fight his other mandatory, Charlo, if the Canelo fight did not get made. Had Canelo said he would be willing to fight for 30% and Golovkin had still refused then the WBC could (and almost certainly would) have stripped Golovkin.

      I can't understand why you ain't just acknowledging that you were wrong in stating this was a voluntary defense for Golovkin. Is this like a misplaced pride thing or something.
      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 08-29-2018, 12:04 PM.

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      • Real King Kong
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        #223
        Originally posted by Bjl12
        Fake news, boy.

        Gennady had already signed a contract to fight BJS.

        BILLY JOE SAUNDERS agreed to fight Gennady Golovkin in August but appears to have been used as a pawn to get Canelo to agree to their rematch on the Kazakh king’s improved terms. The WBO middleweig…




        Then Canelo threw more money at greedy ****** Borat who jumped at the chance to make a new career earnings!!!11

        Canelo Alvarez: “You will see an aggressive Canelo Alvarez in this fight. This fight has become personal. I will use this in my favor—obviously with intelligenc




        Another ggg "fan" exposed for having autism!
        the ibf had already stripped ggg at that point...and warren said there was never a deal in place. the canelo fight got signed didn't it? everyone knew what it was.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #224
          Originally posted by Bjl12
          Somebody get Real King Kong and Tyistall some life support because I just savagely murdered both of them XDDDDD
          "look at me everyone"

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          • Shadoww702
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            #225
            Originally posted by turnedup
            By my kin, I assume you mean "black" and if that's the case let me get this out of the way and say "Fk you" for bringing race into it, if not my bad but be more clear.

            Again, you Canelo nut washers deflect to Golovkin. Ironically even at the amateur level Golovkin fought better fighters that most of Canelo's professional career managed to pull out. Baldomir, Cintron, the plumber Hatton brother? Mosley? I liked Mosley but c'mon Mosley, the Mosley who ran out of steam after four rounds with Floyd? Seriously? You consider going 12 rounds with him an achievement? FOH. Canelo's resume has 5 worthy of opponent names that weren't washed up, B-rated and C-rated level of fighters. This is factual. You can link, provide diagrams, or make any argument you want but it does not change the fact that I mentioned the only 5 names even worthy of mentioning and you can't provide another one without inflating it to make it look like these were great boxers. Even f'ing Robi couldn't challenge my point and all you did was come in here like the pom pom waving b*Tch you are and show exactly why he avoid the argument and ended looking ****** as fk in the process. 5 names and nobody else on that resume is worth a damn when he fought them.
            Give me 3 names worth a damn on GGG's resume that isnt c- level fighters. Your a joke. Comparing fighting with headgear, 3 rounders. SMH.

            You sound like a real Bi@tch.

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            • Shadoww702
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              #226
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              you even asking for 3:1 odds shows that you know khan does not = brook. And you're asking for those odds after brook has already had his face broken twice so you know the undefeated version of him would've massacred khan.
              Im asking for those odds because only a dummy wouldnt take them if they fought. Hell 2:1 would be a steal also. Thats fkn close you dope. Your acting like Brook be favored heavily like not even in the same league. This aint no Vanes GGG odds dopey. More like Canelo lil G type odds.

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              • MeanestNiceGuy
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                #227
                Originally posted by nick_viking
                What he said!
                It's gotten old though, seriously. Canelo doesn't speak English and Gee-Gee-Gee's English is broken, but highly marketable.

                Again, they both need to stop. We know they're nice guy with an edge, but the trash talk is watered down and boring.

                I think they're both just ready to fight...hopefully they actually fight this time. Lol

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                • cally93
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  Lets not forget that this is the same dumb phuck phase fan base that saud canelo ducked ggg when canelo vacated the wbc strap.. We all know canelo didnt duck proof is he is now fighting him a 2nd time. He vavated to be in a better position to get more money without the wbc having any power to dictate purses for the fighters. Its always about the money, but these lame phucks back then said ggg didn't care about money that he fights for legacy.. Phuckin fakes
                  I get what you’re saying but he definitely did duck Golovkin, the fact he vacated the wbc belt, fought Khan and Smith and waited a year is a clear duck, no matter what unique spin is put on it...that’s a duck, was he scared of GGG? Clearly not,,,did he duck him initially? absolutely no question about that.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    Fair enough, that is indeed why they ordered the fight in my estimation. However unless you can provide some evidence to contrary, once the fight was mandated it became subject to the same rules that govern any other mandatory (ie GGG would have been stripped had he refused to fight). Do you have some evidence to indicate that the bolded is true? If you do I'll happily admit to being wrong.

                    Like I said before though the caveat was always that Golovkin had to be willing to forgo his Champions split of the purse... had he demanded the lion's share and Canelo had - perfectly justifiably - refused, then indeed Golovkin could not have been stripped under the WBCs rules.

                    I can't understand why you ain't just acknowledging that you were wrong in stating this was a voluntary defense for Golovkin. Is this like a misplaced pride thing or something.
                    Ok. I wanted to drop this here for you. I normally don't do this...but I'm making special dispensation this time because you're special. Rule 3.8 is where they get to do whatever they want and create any provisions or conditions for the bout that they want. Given that Charlo remains the WBC mandatory, one can only make the educated assumption that the rematch was ordered under the latter 2 provisions in bold below.

                    3.11 Immediate Rematch Policy. The WBC does not recognize immediate rematch clauses in bout agreements and will not sanction or authorize immediate rematches, unless it determines in its sole discretion, with the authorization of or ratification by two-third (2/3rd) of the Board of Governors, that:

                    (a) the conduct or result of the bout was controversial or irregular;

                    (b) there is sufficient public demand; or

                    (c) a direct rematch would otherwise be in the best interests of the division or boxing.

                    If the WBC determines that an immediate rematch is appropriate pursuant to this preceding rule, it may order the rematch as a mandatory bout, permit a requested rematch as a voluntary bout, or sanction the bout as a special bout under Rule 3.8.

                    If the WBC orders such a rematch, it may also rule the winner of the immediate rematch comply with mandatory defense obligations existing at the time of the original contest, or may grant the winner one or more optional defenses prior to fulfilling any mandatory obligations.

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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Im asking for those odds because only a dummy wouldnt take them if they fought. Hell 2:1 would be a steal also. Thats fkn close you dope. Your acting like Brook be favored heavily like not even in the same league. This aint no Vanes GGG odds dopey. More like Canelo lil G type odds.
                      no, you want those odds because you're a degenerate gambler whose scared to lose now after the only woman he's ever loved walked out on him after losing his life savings betting on boxing. Since then, you try to sucker people into ****** bets like this one or you try betting people that Canelo would last past 9 rounds vs ggg. What's next? You wanna bet that wilder throws a bolo punch his next fight? Foh you loser.

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