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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostIt's almost shocking how blind you are. Charlo fought two guys at middle. Centeno who didn't win a single round against Sulecki and Heiland that had a gimp leg. Now get real those aren't the kind of performances that warrant a title shot.
who did Wade beat at middle ?
who did Monroe beat at middle ?
who did Rosado beat at middle ?
who did Brook beat at middle ?
who did Vanes beat at middle ?
why do threats need to " beat someone " ... but not no-hopers?
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Posthe was " shocked " at Canelo's " drastic " style change
for 12 whole rounds loooool
your excuses are delicious
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Originally posted by JWHardin View PostI don't need an excuse. GGG won in most peoples eyes but even that doesn't matter. He forced Canelo to adopt to a style different than he had ever fought before mainly to avoid GGG's power. He clearly ducked him for about 2 yrs waiting for him to decline.
bullshht !!
why on earth would you repeat that fanboy dribble to me, of all people
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous..... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) Ward..... they promised to fight Ward at 168..... a) they killed the fight in June 2015 by demanding a catchweight they knew would kill the fight..... b) in September 2015 they refused that fight in 36 minutes flat
4) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
5) they specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154..... but as above, when shht got real they tucked tail and ran from that fight..... and just like above, 6 months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....
6) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
7) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
btw, fcuk you for making me type all of that..... I will simply bookmark it..... for the next bullshht artist who wants to play dumb
if you think all of that happened by coincidence, you are a fkn dreamer
stop licking Golovkin's sack and then expecting old school fans to applaud you for it..... MANY established journalists have said the exact same thing..... which is why you should have smartened up
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postwho did Wade beat at middle ?
who did Monroe beat at middle ?
who did Rosado beat at middle ?
who did Brook beat at middle ?
who did Vanes beat at middle ?
why do threats need to " beat someone " ... but not no-hopers?Last edited by TonyGe; 08-27-2018, 08:32 PM.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostAny one of the guys you mentioned would beat the tar out of the opponents Charlo fought. Not saying Charlo is a bad fighter but he hasn't done enough at Middle yet to make him worth fighting. Whether you like it or not that's the way things work.
neither had Wade, Monroe, Rosado, Brook, or Vanes, you excuse-making muppet
that is the 3rd time I explained that to you in the last page or so lol
that is almost as dumb as the REAL dumb excuse in my sig
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postneither had Wade, Monroe, Rosado, Brook, or Vanes, you excuse-making muppet
that is the 3rd time I explained that to you in the last page or so lol
that is almost as dumb as the REAL dumb excuse in my sig
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Wade, Monroe, Rosado, Brook, or Vanes
Originally posted by TonyGe View PostAgain, any one if those guys would beat the tar out of the two men Charlo faced as a Middleweight. You know it but you won't admit it.
BULLSHHT you fkn newb casual-fan clown loool
none of those guys would beat Charlo
man you say the dumbest shht
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