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  • TheBigLug
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    #41
    Originally posted by Input1914
    I have no problem with Mexicans but you just can't come to someone's country because you feel like it. Let's not pretend as if Mexico doesnt have a ton of organized violence. How many politicians were killed during the last election season?
    Yeah, why do Mexico have a border between themselves and Guatemala? - because that place has even worse problems, that's why.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #42
      He said "Mexico" was "deliberately" sending "murderers" and "rapists" accross the border. I would assume he meant legal immigrants as well. He also said African countries and Haiti were ****hole countries. He may not be a racist but he sounds like every other racist out there.

      I never understood why some people feel the need to defend racism when it's "white" racism like no such thing exist or ever existed.

      Good luck with changing his mind Beltran.

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      • SteveM
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        #43
        controlled, documented immigration is not the problem. The problem is mass, undocumented immigration including criminals.

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        • JWHardin
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          #44
          Let me first say I am against illegal immigration.

          That said, the fact is we live in a country (US) that doesn't want it to go away.

          There are many examples to verify what I stated above is true. Politicians and big (and small) business won't admit it though. It's cheap labor, and getting rid of them cuts into their profits.

          The "WALL" is totally BS, and a waste of money. Here is the solution: Make it a felony to hire anyone illegal. We have had e-verify for 20+ years. If they can't work, they won't stay.

          Ironically, the US created this problem through NAFTA, when they put 1 million Mexican corn farmers out of business with the huge subsidies they give the American farmers.

          Ask any politician in the US why they don't make it a felony to hire illegals. Put the employers in jail. It will stop. The fact is, they don't want it to stop.

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          • Robi13
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            #45
            Originally posted by JWHardin
            Let me first say I am against illegal immigration.

            That said, the fact is we live in a country (US) that doesn't want it to go away.

            There are many examples to verify what I stated above is true. Politicians and big (and small) business won't admit it though. It's cheap labor, and getting rid of them cuts into their profits.

            The "WALL" is totally BS, and a waste of money. Here is the solution: Make it a felony to hire anyone illegal. We have had e-verify for 20+ years. If they can't work, they won't stay.

            Ironically, the US created this problem through NAFTA, when they put 1 million Mexican corn farmers out of business with the huge subsidies they give the American farmers.

            Ask any politician in the US why they don't make it a felony to hire illegals. Put the employers in jail. It will stop. The fact is, they don't want it to stop.
            Dammmn! That's deep and I agree with you... Its kinda like the saying goes, "do as i say not as I do" lmao dammn hypocrites

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            • DuckAdonis
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              #46
              Originally posted by Input1914
              I have no problem with Mexicans but you just can't come to someone's country because you feel like it. Let's not pretend as if Mexico doesnt have a ton of organized violence. How many politicians were killed during the last election season?
              Lol all of the (white) americans did the exact same...they came to the countries of the native americans because they felt like it and even wiped them out! Im a European, not from the US of course, but alot of you guys seem to forget your history.

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              • MrShakeAndBake
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                #47
                If you are here illegally, does not matter if you mexican or african. Get out and stay out.

                Will vote for Trump AGAIN.

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                • Caxcan
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                  #48
                  It's pretty absurd to suggest that Trump doesn't harbor animosity towards Mexicans in general when his hate mongering isn't limited to rhetoric only-- he actually went so far as to pardon a corrupt law enforcement official, Arpaio, who was found guilty in a court of law of abusing his power and harassing the Latino American community in Az. He's also tweeted/promoted outright anti-Black and anti-****** propaganda sourced to White supremacists. Just look at the people he surrounds himself with: his chief strategist during the campaign, Bannon, has promoted a White nationalist book which depicts ********** as savages bent on the destruction of White society, which mirrors Trumps own xenophobic rhetoric towards Mexicans and immigrants.

                  Btw, even when it comes to illegal immigration, he's a complete hypocrite as undocumented workers were found on his own construction sites during the campaign when he was going around bashing them at every stop. There's probably no one in the history of US politics that has benefited more from their labor considering he built his fortune in hotel, restaurant and construction related industries which rely heavily on their labor. The fact that he attacks many of the same people who helped build his fortune just shows what a narcissistic sociopath he really is.


                  And he doesn't just target illegal immigrants, he's insulted non-white immigrants escaping impoverished conditions and wants to eliminate family based immigration policies which historically represented a major pathway for legal immigration (Melania's own parents benefited from it). He also wants to block large numbers of legal immigrants from obtaining citizenship which has nothing to do with securing our borders as they're already permanent residents. It's an obvious attempt to limit the influence of ********** as they happen to lean ********. Basically, he attacks **********, the media, our own intelligence agencies, along with sane, informed, and decent people everywhere who see him as the pathologically lying, hate mongering, conman that he truly is. He has authoritarian inclinations and those are the groups most likely to keep him in check and hold him accountable, making them the enemy in his eyes.

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                  • BestPR
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                    #49
                    ...there are a lot of racists on here...this site is supposed to be about boxing...

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                    • Beto El Lobo
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Caxcan
                      It's pretty absurd to suggest that Trump doesn't harbor animosity towards Mexicans in general when his hate mongering isn't limited to rhetoric only-- he actually went so far as to pardon a corrupt law enforcement official, Arpaio, who was found guilty in a court of law of abusing his power and harassing the Latino American community in Az. He's also tweeted/promoted outright anti-Black and anti-****** propaganda sourced to White supremacists. Just look at the people he surrounds himself with: his chief strategist during the campaign, Bannon, has promoted a White nationalist book which depicts ********** as savages bent on the destruction of White society, which mirrors Trumps own xenophobic rhetoric towards Mexicans and immigrants.

                      Btw, even when it comes to illegal immigration, he's a complete hypocrite as undocumented workers were found on his own construction sites during the campaign when he was going around bashing them at every stop. There's probably no one in the history of US politics that has benefited more from their labor considering he built his fortune in hotel, restaurant and construction related industries which rely heavily on their labor. The fact that he attacks many of the same people who helped build his fortune just shows what a narcissistic sociopath he really is.


                      And he doesn't just target illegal immigrants, he's insulted non-white immigrants escaping impoverished conditions and wants to eliminate family based immigration policies which historically represented a major pathway for legal immigration (Melania's own parents benefited from it). He also wants to block large numbers of legal immigrants from obtaining citizenship which has nothing to do with securing our borders as they're already permanent residents. It's an obvious attempt to limit the influence of ********** as they happen to lean ********. Basically, he attacks **********, the media, our own intelligence agencies, along with sane, informed, and decent people everywhere who see him as the pathologically lying, hate mongering, conman that he truly is. He has authoritarian inclinations and those are the groups most likely to keep him in check and hold him accountable, making them the enemy in his eyes.
                      You hit the nail, my man !!

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