Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin Still Has Time To Enhance His Legacy

[Mirus]

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At this point in his career, do you think Hopkins had a better resume than GGG?
The only time GGG has looked beatable was against Jacobs so I am not sure who "damaged" him.

I suggest you to watch GGG vs Kassim Ouma.

[Mzembe]

I suggest you to watch GGG vs Kassim Ouma.

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I have. So Ouma is the one who damaged him?
Mayweather had a close fight against Castillo, would you say he was damaged then?
Close fights means exactly what to you?

[TonyGe]

Hopkins is no GGG. GGG has poor defence. He is damaged more.

Damaged in what way? He seems perfectly fine to me. His defense a few years back was rated by Compubox #3 of all active fighters.

[Mirus]

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I have. So Ouma is the one who damaged him?

Have you seen how much punches did GGG blocked by his face?

Not only Ouma. Also Brook (not very heavy but landed pretty good punches), Jacobs, Canelo.

In other fights he ate at least 1-2 decent punches.
For example, in Monroe, Geale, Curtis, Wade, etc fights.

[Mirus]

Damaged in what way? He seems perfectly fine to me. His defense a few years back was rated by Compubox #3 of all active fighters.

It was a few years ago. Can't you see how GGG blocks punches by his face in recent fights? In Brook, Jacobs, Canelo fight?

Also, don't you remember "big drama show" in the fights against Geale, Monroe, Wade ?

Whatch the fight against Kassim Ouma.

[Mirus]

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Mayweather had a close fight against Castillo, would you say he was damaged then?
Close fights means exactly what to you?

Don't compare Welterweight and Middleweight punches.

I remember, Mayweather was hurt by Maidana, Mosley. But in his most fights he doesn't get very clean heavy punches.

Are you crazy? How can you compare Mayweather and GGG. GGG has zero defence compared to Mayweather.

We are not talking about close fights. We are talking about defensive skills and being damaged.

[TonyGe]

It was a few years ago. Can't you see how GGG blocks punches by his face in recent fights? In Brook, Jacobs, Canelo fight?

Also, don't you remember "big drama show" in the fights against Geale, Monroe, Wade ?

Whatch the fight against Kassim Ouma.

I just finished watching it.
Good fight..

[ThomasJK]

I suggest you to watch GGG vs Kassim Ouma.

GTFOH. Golovkin beat Ouma pillar to post. I doubt jacobs could handle Ouma though.

[DocGreenThumb.]

I didn't see Ouma running around like Conello did he stood there and fought like a man the whole fight. He wanted to knock G's head off. That's what I took from that fight.

[Mike_R]

Let me play apologist for a second:

Part of the trouble here is that GGG's star began to rise meaningfully right at the very end of Sergio Martinez's career. That was the fight people wanted around 2012/2013, but Sergio's knees got trashed against JCC Jr.

Cotto expertly cherry picked Sergio and became a middleweight champ with no intention of ever fighting GGG.

Paul Williams' accident took him out of the picture (with a fight scheduled against Canelo)

Canelo and Cotto made a pile of money and Canelo got the 160 strap that he dropped into a trashcan.

Golovkin always said he wanted to be undisputed at 160 so he never left the division to chase Ward, I think maybe a Froch fight came close but couldn't be made. I think GGG is a smaller 168 regardless. The "undisputed champ" reasoning is a bit sad and ironic now that he's been stripped for not taking on his mando with 3 weeks notice in May.

It can be sliced a lot of different ways. But I think GGG does have a rather shallow resume, but that doesn't lead me to think he's not a HOF level fighter because he is. He has maybe campaigned through a transitional period between era's at 160 in a way though.

But bottom line is: if he wants a legacy he still needs to do something special. Great opportunity coming up here on 9/15 for him to try to make the case.



PS- As far as my "what could have happened" logic above... if we're being honest... in an alternate universe Dmitry Pirog never hurt his back and kept an absolute choke hold on 160 for the last 8 years or more.