Comments Thread For: Sanchez Unfazed By Criticism of Golovkin's Title Defense Streak

[Boxing Logic]

Really no comparison. GGG was a clean fighter, Hopkins never was drug tested in his career. Hopkins refused drug testing even in his most recent fights which tells you the guy has been using peds his entire career.

GGG resume is at worst on par with Hopkins whose middleweight reign had draws and losses and the best victories were welterweights .

GGG has, along with Usyk and Lomachenko got the entire African American population in a rage because in a sport their people put their entire culture into, white fighters are the best of the best in boxing today as

GGG ring mag #1 espn #2
Lomachenko espn #1 ring #2
Usyk ring mag and espn #4

Running boxing

You're just putting more fuel on the fire man when you do this. I agree their racial segment of boxing fans is out of control but there are still some excellent black fighters like Crawford, Spence (although with him it's mostly weight bullying and PEDs in my opinion). The problem is they just constantly overhype black fighters and support black fighters even if they never fight anyone, which is what gives the black fighters economic incentive NOT to fight anyone cuz they can still get paid if they dont, which in turn hurts the legacies of black fighters and every other fighter in the sport who wants to fight them and see who the best is, which ruins boxing. If you go to Gervonta Davis twitter page, there are tons of retweets with significant amounts of likes and retweets of fans saying Gervonta is the GOAT, or he is the goat next to Floyd. Not only are they worshiping a totally unproven boxer, they are worshiping one famous for ducking Lomachenko. Then they will cry whenever they see fans calling Loma one of the best ever, but they will call the guy ducking him THE best ever.

There is no sense to it other than racism, so I agree it needs to be called out in order for boxing to prosper, but the way you did it will just give the racial fans the impression that you are just as racially motivated as they are, except with white fighters, and that therefore they are justified in their own racial motivation since "white people do the same thing." Of course it's not the same, Loma, GGG, and Usyk are all proven, and have all BEEN ducked (maybe besides Usyk), whereas they constantly support boxers who do the ducking. The boxers who try to fght the best, but get ducked, are good for the sport because if everyone tried to fight the best, the sport would be amazing. The boxers who do the ducking are ruining the sport because they prevent the good fights from happening.

So we have a situation where a racially motivated subgroup of black boxing fans are rooting for the downfall of the sport, while fans like you root for the sport to get better, and yet these racial fans try to create a false equivalence where those two are one and the same. They couldn't be more different, but you need to express that differently otherwise you will just give them cause to dig in deeper and continue ruining boxing.

[markther]

People will always criticize what they can’t do themselves, human nature. Only Bernard Hopkins can really question the legitimacy of his steak. In my opinion, Bernard’s just looks better. He has sexier names on his resume like Oscar and Trinidad and Joppy. But to give Abel some credence to what he said, BHOP did face Robert Allen (3) times and Antwun Echols (2) times during his streak. And BHOP had 12 TKO/KO’s out of 20 defenses with (1) of those fights being a “no contest” against Robert Allen.

In contrast GGG defended his middleweight title against 19 and won 17 by TKO/KO. He had the (1) draw against Canelo. And he has some names too, again, not as sexy as BHOP’s, but decent names, Lemieux, Jacobs, Geale, Stevens, Macklin, Murray, Rubio, Brook, and Canelo.

I just don’t think GGG’s streak should be degraded that much. I’m not a GGG fan, I just like BHOP’s better. But GGG’s title streak is legit too.

[whoseyourdaddy]

Tarver, Winky, Pavlik, Pascal, and Cloud were not MW fights. Honestly, Felix and Oscar didn't do much at MW either! It's like trying to rank Mayweather as a Super Welterweight. Yeah, he won belts, but he really wasn't a 154lb. fighter. Now based on talent level, WITH JUST THE GUYS I MENTIONED, here you go:

1) Bernard Hopkins
2) Oscar De La Hoya
3) Felix Trinidad
4) GGG
5) Winky Wright
6) Canelo
7) Tarver
8) Pavlik
9) Pascal
10) Cloud

I know Felix won, but Oscar was better, and should've won, but he got way too conservative, way too early! Canelo can jump to the 4 spot by beating GGG, and GGG could fall to the 6 spot if he loses to Canelo! If GGG beats Canelo, I would move him to the 3 spot!

Where is Sergio Martinez Ranked at? and by the way Tavoris Cloud is/was a bum.

[TheCell8]

Where Golovkin has a claim for this is that Sturm's title wasn't legitimately won. The WBA Super belt is not a belt that you can win per say, it's a belt that you're awarded after unifying. It was created to allow unified champions more leeway to defend their titles against mandatory challengers. Sturm won the belt under highly su****ious circumstances. He was the WBA belt holder, and then got upgraded after he defeated Lorenzo, who was not a champion.

[jonnyc420]

Is never fighting a rematch something to brag about. 1. You're about to fight a rematch. 2. The one time before Alvarez that he fought a top caliber fighter, he was heavily tested and refused to give a rematch.

Name one ATG who didn't fight a rematch? Most fought multiple. Its actually a sign that you're fighting the best fighters of your time.

Very nicely put. This guy just loves to hear himself talk. He is a bad mouthpeice for GGG. I like GGG as a person, IDK if he spoke on this but I don't see him saying all that crap Sanchez is saying.

[Vnecaxa]

Tarver, Winky, Pavlik, Pascal, and Cloud were not MW fights. Honestly, Felix and Oscar didn't do much at MW either! It's like trying to rank Mayweather as a Super Welterweight. Yeah, he won belts, but he really wasn't a 154lb. fighter. Now based on talent level, WITH JUST THE GUYS I MENTIONED, here you go:

1) Bernard Hopkins
2) Oscar De La Hoya
3) Felix Trinidad
4) GGG
5) Winky Wright
6) Canelo
7) Tarver
8) Pavlik
9) Pascal
10) Cloud

I know Felix won, but Oscar was better, and should've won, but he got way too conservative, way too early! Canelo can jump to the 4 spot by beating GGG, and GGG could fall to the 6 spot if he loses to Canelo! If GGG beats Canelo, I would move him to the 3 spot!

Where would you place Jermaine Taylor, didn’t he beat BHop twice and tied with Winky?

[Bronx2245]

Where is Sergio Martinez Ranked at? and by the way Tavoris Cloud is/was a bum.

Sergio wasn't one of the guys that I mentioned in an earlier post.

[Bronx2245]

Where would you place Jermaine Taylor, didn’t he beat BHop twice and tied with Winky?

I was asked to rank Canelo and GGG in a list of guys Hopkins beat, not everyone he fought. The best fighter Hopkins ever fought was Roy Jones Jr.!

[Muz]

You're just putting more fuel on the fire man when you do this. I agree their racial segment of boxing fans is out of control but there are still some excellent black fighters like Crawford, Spence (although with him it's mostly weight bullying and PEDs in my opinion). The problem is they just constantly overhype black fighters and support black fighters even if they never fight anyone, which is what gives the black fighters economic incentive NOT to fight anyone cuz they can still get paid if they dont, which in turn hurts the legacies of black fighters and every other fighter in the sport who wants to fight them and see who the best is, which ruins boxing. If you go to Gervonta Davis twitter page, there are tons of retweets with significant amounts of likes and retweets of fans saying Gervonta is the GOAT, or he is the goat next to Floyd. Not only are they worshiping a totally unproven boxer, they are worshiping one famous for ducking Lomachenko. Then they will cry whenever they see fans calling Loma one of the best ever, but they will call the guy ducking him THE best ever.

There is no sense to it other than racism, so I agree it needs to be called out in order for boxing to prosper, but the way you did it will just give the racial fans the impression that you are just as racially motivated as they are, except with white fighters, and that therefore they are justified in their own racial motivation since "white people do the same thing." Of course it's not the same, Loma, GGG, and Usyk are all proven, and have all BEEN ducked (maybe besides Usyk), whereas they constantly support boxers who do the ducking. The boxers who try to fght the best, but get ducked, are good for the sport because if everyone tried to fight the best, the sport would be amazing. The boxers who do the ducking are ruining the sport because they prevent the good fights from happening.

So we have a situation where a racially motivated subgroup of black boxing fans are rooting for the downfall of the sport, while fans like you root for the sport to get better, and yet these racial fans try to create a false equivalence where those two are one and the same. They couldn't be more different, but you need to express that differently otherwise you will just give them cause to dig in deeper and continue ruining boxing.

I always value your opinion and expertise on not only the facts in boxing, but human behavior. Yes, a lot of my vitriol comes from the fact they are so openly racist and hypocritical, I tend to sink to that level in response because quite frankly I believe they just aren't perceptive enough to pick up on what people like us know to be factual, so in turn i throw the facts right in their face point blank.

The fact that black boxers are incentivized to duck risky fights in order to protect that 0 is something I began to notice when Pbc began after Floyd used it it con his way through . It has ruined boxing and cheated great fighters like GGG and Loma from reaching their destiny after both Mayweather and Davis blatantly ducked the challenges of GGG and Lomachenko while fighting Berto and a bum Cuellar.

This racist subgroup of black fans is ruining the sport and it's up to us to raise awareness to where maybe the fighters stand up and finally address the situation with these ***** fanatics.

[Kali_KO]

Ill take Hopkins best wins anyday over GGG's. Hell Combine Jacobs and Canelo and still wont get a Trinidad. Even though he lost to Jones you could combine GGG, Canelo, Jacobs and that PRIME Jones STILL wins.

You mean Trinidad, the Welterweight that moved to Middleweight😂 GGG KOd a welterweight in Brook only after 2 UK middleweights BJS and Eubank wouldn’t fight him and got criticized for it. GGG held to a different standard by these fools who can’t see through their hate for him