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Stiverne was easily top 5, he had 2 quality wins against Arreola, and a win against Austin. He was also one of the biggest punchers in the division even doing what Vitali couldn't vs Arreola and that's cold clock him.
Pedvetkin went life and death with a cruiser like Huck who wasn't even top 5 in his own division and Chagaev too.
Andy Ruiz broke top 15 with the biggest name being Austin years after Stiverne beat him, Hughie Fury too with a win over Fred Kassi, both men arguably beat Parker who was around top 5.
Foreman struggled putting away guys like 197lb Gregorio Peralta who was some random Argentine journeyman. He also got out boxed and dropped by Jimmy Young who was losing to no-names himself and is not a puncher in the least.
Most of the guys Tyson failed to KO were bigger guys like Green, Tucker, Smith, etc. These guys aren't much bigger than Eric Molina (6'4 230), Molina is actually around the same size as prime Foreman.
Dillian Whyte is another big guy, 6'4 250, around the same size as Golota who looked like a monster in the 90's. But nobody thinks of Whyte being some sort of monster, he looks average.Last edited by Cutthroat; 08-24-2018, 12:26 AM.Comment
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It’s the real deal, he’s punching thru heavyweights guard and hurting opponents with either slight shots or whimsical punches!
If he had technique he would be unstoppable but then again he wouldn’t be as dangerous due to his unorthodox style and his punches coming from all angles when he has an opponent hurt!
Tyson Fury is gonna add another great feather to his cap when he outboxes and beat the most dangerous heavyweight in the division!Comment
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He’s an excellent puncher. Just because he was ‘supposed’ to knock out most of his opp, doesn’t mean they were supposed to be nailed to the canvas twitching.
He has the ability to throw his shots recklessly. A lot of people would say that was a negative, and maybe it is in the right context, but it also means when he lets loose with a big shot, there isn’t a single part of his body holding his momentum back.
Other great fighters did this, albeit in a more controlled way. SRR comes to mind. When he threw a shot, he *****ing threw it.Comment
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Wilder can crack for sure, but he seems to need the range and a pretty static target to land effectively.
He is all arms and legs if you get my meaning, huge lanky levers generate whip like power.
It's hard for someone to get inside his octopus like frame and bust him up, Ortiz had the most success IMO, but being over forty he just could keep up with the pace Wilder can set.
That said, knocking out 30 odd total bums in the HW division is not really any type of achievement.Comment
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He has insane power in his straight right hand, one of the most devastating shots there is.
I think he actually lacks power in every other punch as weird as that may sound. He lives and dies by that straight right which is fine as long as he can continue to find a way to set it up.Comment
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That could be true, but what the Ortiz fight showed was that he doesn’t lose confidence in his power, and it carries late into the fight.
That means you’ve got to be on your game for 12 rounds and not let your guard down, otherwise he could get you.
Joe Louis had a similar kinda outlook on his fights. He often dropped many rounds, but if you make a small mistake, or your feet were a split second too slow, then it’s lights out. Billy Conn knows the feeling
It’s a psycholically stressful situation. Be very interesting to see how Fury deals with it. Wlad was tamed by Furys movement and stopped putting full power into his shots to compensate. Wilder won’t do that. That guy will keep swinging if his fists are hitting chins or hitting the ringside seats lolComment
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Is it me but I can't take Deontay seriously anymore. He got bullied in the UK. A Old Man threw beer at him, and he didn't do anything back. Security guards spoke to him like he's a Boy. Saunders threw chicken at him, Fury been taking the pi** with him...You would never see that happen to Tyson.Comment
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same could be said of AJ. wlad was older than Ortiz, coming off a loss and a big lay off and had been stopped 3 times before.
AJ has had one fight against a possible top 5 Heavyweight that wasn't shot and he never looked like stopping him in a million years. That's not a dig at him, it's just boxing. You're not going to stop everyone to easily when you go through the ranks.
AJ couldn't even properly stop Takam, he had to get the ref to jump in after a missed flurry. lol, even Del Boy flattened him in better fashion. And as for guys like Breazeale, they are garbage, Journeyman Mansour nearly had him out of there.
AJ has also only stopped fighters that he should stop, the same can be said of many fighters.Comment
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