Jose Luis Castillo calls Floyd the GREATEST EVER: "better than Dempsey, Louis & Ali."

[hugh grant]

History shows Whitaker and Chavez having a draw but fans still know who won and give Whitaker the head to head benefit.

Fans will always know Marquez was robbed blind in fight III after deserving to win at least one of the first two and then ending the series with a brutal put to sleep KO for the ages. Marquez was the older man already past his physical best for at least three fights of the series too.

I don’t think jmm was as badly robbed as you imply otherwise pac wouldn’t be favourite in all rematches. If jmm performed as good as he did against pac to other opponents he might be considered as great as pac now.
Castillo was robbed by Floyd and said Floyd was best also.
So not sure what your beef is.?

[chrisJS]

I don’t think jmm was as badly robbed as you imply otherwise pac wouldn’t be favourite in all rematches. If jmm performed as good as he did against pac to other opponents he might be considered as great as pac now.
Castillo was robbed by Floyd and said Floyd was best also.
So not sure what your beef is.?

I was at all the fights. Spoke to fans, media, fighters, trainers etc; before and after them.

Marquez was a very narrow underdog in fight II. He was 34, which was consider old for a 130-pounder. I think the majority of press at the fight had Marquez up, the online press was about even perhaps slightly Marquez. I don't think this is considered a bad robbery but Marquez probably deserved a decision. I spoke to people in Pacquaio's camp that felt he probably didn't deserve the win.

Fight III happened almost four years later. Marquez was now 38 and going back up to welterweight where he'd looked like **** previously. This was a robbery. Very few people felt Pacquaio won. Media and especially fans even Pacquaio fans. Overtime fanboys have just accepted it as "fair".

Fight IV Marquez was pushing 40 and people knew he needed a KO to win but the odds were a lot tighter this time. Obviously a 40 year old can get old anytime. Obviously we know what happened here. Not even the judges could ruin it.

Yes, I agree Castillo was robbed vs. Floyd. I felt he deserved a win by 115-111 or 8-4 in rounds. I can see a round closer. I felt the re-match was 8-4 the other way with the possibility it was a round closer. IMO they fought evenly across 24 rounds.

[Sable&Whitefish]

You're going to act like the majority of Floyd detractors on this very site are not racist or just natural born haters jealous of others success?






Lol. Ok. We can pretend all you want, doesn't make it true.

Is it hard for you to accept that most people hate Floyd's guts because he's a trash person, and that's why they can't be objective or praise him?

Doesn't mean they're racist or jealous of his success, that just doesn't add up because people love all the other successful black, brown, yellow etc. fighters.

[chrisJS]

Is it hard for you to accept that most people hate Floyd's guts because he's a trash person, and that's why they can't be objective or praise him?

Doesn't mean they're racist or jealous of his success, that just doesn't add up because people love all the other successful black, brown, yellow etc. fighters.

Yeah he’s not exactly easy to root for given his history and attitude. He markets himself on being unlikable and guys like him cry when you don’t like him and accuse of racism. I’m sure dude hates Lomachenko, GGG too and last I checked they are humble, respectful fighters who don’t treat their families like **** and beat women. But if you say he’s racist he’ll probably cry and say how dare you.

[b00g13man]

TBE baby!!!

[4truth]

Typical of boxers to prop up their own wins. Castillo making himself look better. It's natural.

That's what I was thinking also.

A lot like the fighters claiming that Ernie Shavers was the hardest hitting HW. The fighters saying that are invariably fighters who beat Ernie.

[Dosumpthin]

Is it hard for you to accept that most people hate Floyd's guts because he's a trash person, and that's why they can't be objective or praise him?

Doesn't mean they're racist or jealous of his success, that just doesn't add up because people love all the other successful black, brown, yellow etc. fighters.

You're just subconsciously repeating the haters rhetoric.

I challenge you or anyone on this forum to :

Name ONE black athlete, who was the clear front-runner of their respective sport, that was not vilified by America.

Only after such athlete falls from grace will a hater lose their motivation.


This is an indisputable fact. And please do a quick Google search before you name Ali/Jordan. Thanks.

[djtmal]

Must have been Castillos biggest paydays

[Dosumpthin]

Yeah he’s not exactly easy to root for given his history and attitude. He markets himself on being unlikable and guys like him cry when you don’t like him and accuse of racism. I’m sure dude hates Lomachenko, GGG too and last I checked they are humble, respectful fighters who don’t treat their families like **** and beat women. But if you say he’s racist he’ll probably cry and say how dare you.

Lol. It's true, as a fan, I root against GGG and LOMA. Was happy when (and how) Ward beat Kovalev. Prefer Wilder over Joshua since I have to choose (that's some deep rooted **** right there).

My stance is : it is what it is. Just be open with it and be man enough to deal with the consequences. I can respect that more than pretending racism doesn't exist.


And the reasons you gave for not liking Floyd are the same reasons given for not liking Ali. Same hater shlt. Different era.

[chrisJS]

Lol. It's true, as a fan, I root against GGG and LOMA. Was happy when (and how) Ward beat Kovalev. Prefer Wilder over Joshua since I have to choose (that's some deep rooted **** right there).

My stance is : it is what it is. Just be open with it and be man enough to deal with the consequences. I can respect that more than pretending racism doesn't exist.


And the reasons you gave for not liking Floyd are the same reasons given for not liking Ali. Same hater shlt. Different era.

Ok, well by the same token you suggest people dislike Mayweather I think you are a racist based on who you actively root against. That's three fighters you no doubt have a strong dislike for. Just be open with it and stop pretending it doesn't exist.

They aren't "reasons". Floyd is a convicted woman beater that spent time inside because of it. His own son said he's a coward and when he opens his mouth he tends to say ****** things. I, like many others that dislike Floyd's personality point to my favorite active boxer as Crawford, among my all-time favorites are Hagler, Too Sharp, Toney, Saad Muhammad, Holyfield to name just a few. You, no doubt don't like ANY white fighter. Think about that.