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  • petero
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    #61
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    When you compare how many primed fighters Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder has deomolished compared to Tyson Fury's list of primed opponents theres only one name that I can acknowledge as worthy ( Christian Hammer ), weigh Christian Hammer to : Kelvin Price, Audley Harrison, Malik Scott, Bermane Stiverne, Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Gerald Washington, and you must accept that Deontays resume is clearly superior.

    This comment from Fury is only something a hater would say, considering Wladimir was practically the same age as Luis Ortiz, the difference is Wladimir was lucky to have Big-Bro clean up his messes after little bro got his jaw-shattered. Luis Ortiz would of been champion if he too had a body-guard.
    Elie Sechbac, you are ranting again on estrogen overload. This is a genuine 50/50 HW fight, (check the odds) with a 50/50 purse split. The 2 best fighting each other, what more can be said.

    It's clear you are very nervous about this fight. When the Gypsy King beats Wilder your posts are gonna be even more pathetic and laughable.

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    • Lemonhead_Jeff
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      #62
      Originally posted by Holler
      I don't think you'll be receptive to any facts or figures I quote as you appear quite polarised on the subject so the best bet is for you to examine the media output from these men in the days ahead and see whether or not it tallies with the approach I've outlined.
      What you've outlined is that you believe the
      public will not be interested in a Fury-Wilder showdown
      unless both participants continually talk about Joshua.
      That is laughable.

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      • TheBigLug
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        #63
        Originally posted by petero
        Elie Sechbac, you are ranting again on estrogen overload. This is a genuine 50/50 HW fight, (check the odds) with a 50/50 purse split. The 2 best fighting each other, what more can be said.

        It's clear you are very nervous about this fight. When the Gypsy King beats Wilder your posts are gonna be even more pathetic and laughable.
        Haha is 1hourrun actually Elie 5hitsack?

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        • Lemonhead_Jeff
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          #64
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          Pumpkin head Jeff let me ask you this , who out of Joshua, Fury and Wilder is in desperate need of headlines? Does Joshua desire the headlines that you feel he so craves? The World media will be there on the 22nd September.

          The lack of articles on the event comes at a consequence to who financially? You will watch the fight and so will everybody else what difference does it make. 80,000 seats have already been sold and the press will be on it from September as the fight is still 1 month away.

          There is also another Brit of the name Fury that will turn Wilders fortunes around. Why the bitterness everytime you open your trap.

          Wilder has a wonderful fight set out for him where he should look majestic and KO Fury .But instead of focusing on your lieutenant ‘s good fortunes in a mouth watering fight ,you let your mind wonder 3000 miles away to Joshua and his plans. Mind your own business and worry about your charge. You can not be trusted to be impartial. I’m Team AJ but I’m happy Wilder will fight Fury and earn the type of money his power deserves.
          The lack of articles about Joshua-Povetkin is directly
          related to the public's interest in the fight. Wilder-Fury
          are not in NEED of headlines because they are receiving
          more attention than ever before. If anybody is hurting
          for headlines right now it's Hearn. Joshua will fight
          Povetkin in front of a sell-out crowd, but the event has
          already lost it's luster since a Fury-Wilder fight has been
          announced.
          Joshua does not even cross my mind anymore since
          he's shown his true colors. It's Joshua fans who insist
          on injecting his name in every article about Fury-Wilder.
          British fans thought they had the 'belle of the ball' until
          they saw her without makeup. Now they're jealous
          because the world is smitten over somebody other than
          Joshua.

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            #65
            Originally posted by kafkod
            I watched Wilder vs Ortiz again last night, and I'm feeling much better about Fury's chances against Wilder.

            Check out the 8th round. Despite being given an extra break by the doctor, Wilder came out looking like a dead man walking, and basically did nothing the whole round except shamble around waiting for Ortiz to put him out of his misery. To me, he looked like he'd given up, mentally.

            But Ortiz had gassed himself out in the last 30 seconds of the 7th, and he didn't have enough energy or will power to go for it and take the chances Wilder was giving him.

            Fury has more heart than Wilder and Ortiz put together. Even if he isn't there 100% physically, his heart and will to win will be too much for Wilder to handle, imo.
            Heart will not benefit Tyson Fury, it will only add to his suffering and likely lead Fury to endure the worst beating hes ever going to experience in his life.

            I can only hope big John agrees with me for the sake of his sons health and has the towel ready. Encouraging Tyson to withstand the strikes of the most dangerous puncher EVER is very irresponsible and negligent ; I'm glad your not working Tysons corner.
            Originally posted by petero
            Elie Sechbac, you are ranting again on estrogen overload. This is a genuine 50/50 HW fight, (check the odds) with a 50/50 purse split. The 2 best fighting each other, what more can be said.

            It's clear you are very nervous about this fight. When the Gypsy King beats Wilder your posts are gonna be even more pathetic and laughable.
            What makes you think I'm worried Peter? I cant wait for this! This will be even more gratifying than when Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder came back from round seven vs. Luis Ortiz!!!

            I cant wait to rub it in your face! AND THE NEW LINEAL HW CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!! Get use to that!!!
            Last edited by 1hourRun; 08-22-2018, 11:26 AM.

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            • petero
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              #66
              Originally posted by TheBigLug
              Haha is 1hourrun actually Elie 5hitsack?
              Yes it is, even though he denies it
              big-time. He accused me of being Peter Fury lol.

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                #67
                Originally posted by petero
                Yes it is, even though he denies it
                big-time. He accused me of being Peter Fury lol.
                Lol, Peter Fury is literally one of the last people in the world i could imagine using an internet forum.

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
                  The lack of articles about Joshua-Povetkin is directly
                  related to the public's interest in the fight. Wilder-Fury
                  are not in NEED of headlines because they are receiving
                  more attention than ever before. If anybody is hurting
                  for headlines right now it's Hearn. Joshua will fight
                  Povetkin in front of a sell-out crowd, but the event has
                  already lost it's luster since a Fury-Wilder fight has been
                  announced.
                  Joshua does not even cross my mind anymore since
                  he's shown his true colors. It's Joshua fans who insist
                  on injecting his name in every article about Fury-Wilder.
                  British fans thought they had the 'belle of the ball' until
                  they saw her without makeup. Now they're jealous
                  because the world is smitten over somebody other than
                  Joshua.
                  Good response. I was a bit *****y having reread my comments towards you. I don’t agree but I respect what you are saying

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                  • P to the J
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    Did Klitschkos chin ever reach its prime? You can attribute Emmanuel Steward for Wladimirs success from maybe 06 until 2012, but Jonathan Banks was in charge for his best fights : Bryant Jennings, Alexander Pedvetkin, Kubrat Pulev, Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua...

                    when the notion arrived in my mind that Wladimir may have reached his prime at 36, I just had to disregard this talk about 'The Emmanuel Steward years' sounds more like justification for loses if you ask me, and I haven't even addressed all the ways Klitschko was taught to cheat and stink-up fights under Steward ( PEE-YEW ).

                    I still remember how HBO refused to carry his fights until he fought Jennings!

                    Who has beaten more prime fighters, Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury?

                    Did Dereck Chisora win a Gold-Medal for the UK? has Chisora won the prestigious HW 'Prize-fighter' not once but TWICE? So what if Dereck won the European title? Has Chisora avenged any losses? Robert Helenious, David Haye, Dillian Shyte??? NO, but Audley Harrison did -- Off the top of my head I can think of Danny Williams and Michael Sprott. Audley did all this in a much shorter span. FACTS.

                    Again with Audley Harrison...I'm starting to see a pattern here when it comes to Audley and 'Delboy'...I don't know what it is but I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

                    “Did Klitschko’s chin ever reach it’s prime.” LOL, good line.

                    Fair points but one flaw (that I can think of) with what you’re saying when asking who has fought the most fighters in their primes. If the fighters in question suck - and I mean SUUUUCK - what good is being in their prime?

                    Let me use this as an example: Joseph Parker’s a boxer that divides opinion here. I rate him to a degree. Most don’t. AJ and Whyte have both taken him down in his prime. But if he’s turd, how big a deal is it that he was in prime?
                    You can argue that Wilder has taken down many a fighter in their prime, but if their prime level is mediocre, so what?

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                    • petero
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by TheBigLug
                      Lol, Peter Fury is literally one of the last people in the world i could imagine using an internet forum.
                      Elie 5hitsack? Too funny, I'm still laughing. Winding him up is like fish in a barrel.

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